Anyway, did anyone notice uploads are back down again? I clicked on the link to the upload post page and I got a 500 error. According to the uploads page index, it's been like this for at least four hours.
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Toks said:
Daveskyshard said:
- can't see how many pages a tag has or go to the last one right awayYes you can. But only on searches below a certain limit. I think it probably excludes this for searches that return more than 1000 pages because you can't search past page 1000 in the first place.
Well I guess I didn't notice that. Still, can't tell how many new pages were added since last time I checked the website, or how many I'm missing. Hopefully that'll be fixed too.
Toks said:
Daveskyshard said:
- can no longer open the picture by itself by clicking on the image size (though I guess this wasn't intended)Yes you can. On post #1363067 I can click "275 KB" and be brought to the full image page. That's what you meant, right?
I'm sure this was not available 2 hours ago, but then again I did expect it to be fixed.
Anyway, the point that many don't like what I too complained about and are already thinking of leaving remains. I really fail to see anything good coming from this.
My big thing on this site is editing tags. I love tagging things, and making it easier to search for EXACTLY the picture you want. The change made it MUCH more difficult to do that, for the following reasons:
1) Having the edit button away from the other options on the sidebar makes it less obvious, in my opinion.
2) When you edit the tags and hit submit, you are unable to navigate back to the prior page by hitting the back button, making editing tags a chore, instead of fun.
The second thing needs to change AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. I love this site, but if it becomes too much of a pain to tag things and keep browsing, things are going to be under-tagged, and profuse and accurate tagging is what drew me here in the first place.
RiderFan said:
Seems my wiki entry for How to tag legwear is now kaput.
Did you access it from the wiki itself or from another wiki page? as if its' from the latter, it ends up defaulting to a blank "make a page" thing.
Also before making the post about the upgrade cost, I did try sending an e-mail to the address on the upgrade page, I got a delivery failed message.
catharsis25 said:
2) When you edit the tags and hit submit, you are unable to navigate back to the prior page by hitting the back button, making editing tags a chore, instead of fun.
What do you mean? I'm able to navigate back after editing by hitting either the back button in the browser or the backspace key.
Toks said:
Iie-Kyo said:
Can I pay $40 to get the old interface back?I'm being serious by the way.
If there's something specific you don't like, say what it is. A lot of things are being fixed to be more convenient, and Albert might include your suggestions if you do.
"I don't like change, so change everything back to how it was" isn't a very good suggestion though, and it probably isn't going to happen.
Change for the sake of change is one of the worst types of changes out there. There was nothing wrong with the previous interface. If things were ADDED to the interface to improve it I wouldn't have mind, but the user interface changes and this strange 3-tier user system and removal of certain features privileged users got to enjoy and now have to pay an extra $20 for doesn't seem like much of an improvement to me.
I actually WILL pay money to be able to switch to the old interface since there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
I thought there were enough people checking out the Testbooru to provide feedback to the devs to scale back on the front end changes, but I guess not enough voices were heard and people are only complaining about it after the fact. Too bad for them I guess.
Toks said:
catharsis25 said:
2) When you edit the tags and hit submit, you are unable to navigate back to the prior page by hitting the back button, making editing tags a chore, instead of fun.What do you mean? I'm able to navigate back after editing by hitting either the back button in the browser or the backspace key.
I'm not. Don't know why. Example:
I navigate to this page: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=pussy_juice_stain
I click the following picture: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1352265#.USQS-1rSNLI
I edit the tags to include a few more things, then click submit: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1352265
When I hit back, I'm taken to this url: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1352265#.USQS-1rSNLI
When I hit back again, I'm taken to this url: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1352265
And so on and so forth
On another note, when I click on this image: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1356111#.USQTtlrSNLI
The image doesn't show, and there's a broken image symbol where the image should be, and it says "Sample" in the upper left corner of the image box. However, when I click the "view original" button, BAM, the image shows up.
The same thing happens with this image: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1355459#.USQUblrSNLI
Probably a few more, too.
Note: I haven't looked at the source code for this site yet, and haven't done any of the normal debugging stuff I might try yet, so this might just be happening for me.
Change for the sake of change is one of the worst types of changes out there. There was nothing wrong with the previous interface. If things were ADDED to the interface to improve it I wouldn't have mind, but the user interface changes and this strange 3-tier user system and removal of certain features privileged users got to enjoy and now have to pay an extra $20 for doesn't seem like much of an improvement to me.
I actually WILL pay money to be able to switch to the old interface since there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
I thought there were enough people checking out the Testbooru to provide feedback to the devs to scale back on the front end changes, but I guess not enough voices were heard and people are only complaining about it after the fact. Too bad for them I guess.
I didn't even know Testbooru even EXISTED. I got a feeling the majority of the userbase didn't. Or they figured they wouldn't be effectively blowing up Danbooru for no apparent reason.
But yes I agree with you on most things save the giving real money as it just encourage this kind of bullshit in the future. I'm not going to be extorted to get a working website
In response to the people saying "Where's the upside to this nonsense" and "please revert page X for now!" I feel I should point out that (as I understand it) Danbooru 2 is a complete re-code from scratch in a new programming language. So reverting a part of it isn't possible; there's nothing to revert to. The reason this was done in the first place was to provide a better platform for which new features can easily be added.
I'm perfectly willing to weather this storm if it means that, after the initial kinks get worked out, we can finally get the new features Danbooru has needed for so long (Comment search by tag, please oh please). That said, if the major issues aren't fixed in a matter of days, it could indeed be seriously problematic.
In response to the people saying "Where's the upside to this nonsense" and "please revert page X for now!" I feel I should point out that (as I understand it) Danbooru 2 is a complete re-code from scratch in a new programming language. So reverting a part of it isn't possible; there's nothing to revert to. The reason this was done in the first place was to provide a better platform for which new features can easily be added.
I'm perfectly willing to weather this storm if it means that, after the initial kinks get worked out, we can finally get the new features Danbooru has needed for so long (Comment search by tag, please oh please). That said, if the major issues aren't fixed in a matter of days, it could indeed be seriously problematic.
Okay you can recode and put the changes BEHIND THE SCENES but keep the same UI. But no its was more LET'S CHANGE THINGS FOR NO REASON!! I mean its the same reason why Windows 8 is much a cluster fuck as it is it is...
And its been days. 95% of the problems have NOT been fixed and more problems are being found daily. I'm sorry this is a disaster and really Take the site down and put back the old version back up. We'll reupload the art lost and Danbooru 2.0 can get another year of testing as its looking like the coders did a REALLY half assed job of bugtesting. I'm talking Bethesda Tier bugteting.
Zelinkokitsune said:
In response to the people saying "Where's the upside to this nonsense" and "please revert page X for now!" I feel I should point out that (as I understand it) Danbooru 2 is a complete re-code from scratch in a new programming language. So reverting a part of it isn't possible; there's nothing to revert to. The reason this was done in the first place was to provide a better platform for which new features can easily be added.
I'm perfectly willing to weather this storm if it means that, after the initial kinks get worked out, we can finally get the new features Danbooru has needed for so long (Comment search by tag, please oh please). That said, if the major issues aren't fixed in a matter of days, it could indeed be seriously problematic.
Okay you can recode and put the changes BEHIND THE SCENES but keep the same UI. But no its was more LET'S CHANGE THINGS FOR NO REASON!! I mean its the same reason why Windows 8 is much a cluster fuck as it is it is...
And its been days. 95% of the problems have NOT been fixed and more problems are being found daily. I'm sorry this is a disaster and really Take the site down and put back the old version back up. We'll reupload the art lost and Danbooru 2.0 can get another year of testing as its looking like the coders did a REALLY half assed job of bugtesting. I'm talking Bethesda Tier bugteting.
I think what needed to happen was a slower transition. Implement one change at a time, test it on a test server, then if it works, push it to the live version. That's how we did it when I was doing web development.
catharsis25 said:
I think the cause of those problems are the weird #.USQS-1rSNLI at the end of your URLs. I don't see those at all, but some other users reported they did.
It may be a bug related to your browser; what are you using?
Zelinkokitsune said:
I didn't even know Testbooru even EXISTED. I got a feeling the majority of the userbase didn't. Or they figured they wouldn't be effectively blowing up Danbooru for no apparent reason.
I vaguely knew it existed, but assumed that it had been thoroughly tested and was perfectly fine since no one else was testing it. If I had known it was in this state I would have been active in bug reporting before the whole user base was forced to use it. It's too late to go back to Testbooru now though, all we can do is make bug reports and suggestions on how to improve it (Albert has been pretty quick and responsive with his updates so far).
Coconut said:
In response to the people saying "Where's the upside to this nonsense" and "please revert page X for now!" I feel I should point out that (as I understand it) Danbooru 2 is a complete re-code from scratch in a new programming language. So reverting a part of it isn't possible; there's nothing to revert to. The reason this was done in the first place was to provide a better platform for which new features can easily be added.I'm perfectly willing to weather this storm if it means that, after the initial kinks get worked out, we can finally get the new features Danbooru has needed for so long (Comment search by tag, please oh please). That said, if the major issues aren't fixed in a matter of days, it could indeed be seriously problematic.
Yes, this puts my opinion into words perfectly.
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Coconut said:
(Comment search by tag, please oh please)
We already have it. Check the comment search page.
Zelinkokitsune said:
Okay you can recode and put the changes BEHIND THE SCENES but keep the same UI. But no its was more LET'S CHANGE THINGS FOR NO REASON!! I mean its the same reason why Windows 8 is much a cluster fuck as it is it is...And its been days. 95% of the problems have NOT been fixed and more problems are being found daily. I'm sorry this is a disaster and really Take the site down and put back the old version back up. We'll reupload the art lost and Danbooru 2.0 can get another year of testing as its looking like the coders did a REALLY half assed job of bugtesting. I'm talking Bethesda Tier bugteting.
Again this is only my understanding, but afaik web programming doesn't work that way; you can't just mix-and-match the UI code and backend code in different languages. The changed UI isn't different because Albert thought "hey we should change this," (like Windows 8), it's different as a side effect of changing languages. It's going to take a lot of work to get things looking exactly how they looked before.
And if you read the forum thread and actually use the site, you'd see that problems are getting fixed at a reasonable rate. It's just that the ones getting fixed are basic functionality, and the aesthetic bugs are getting down-prioritized until later.
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Toks said:
We already have it. Check the comment search page.
SHIT YES
Totally useless without thumbnails but I assume that'll be fixed at some point.
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>Toks
I'm using Chrome on Mac OSX in private mode. None of my extensions should be messing with this sort of thing. Maybe if I have time later I'll take a look at what my browser is seeing as the source code.
Oh! I thought of another thing. I also really liked being able to save tag changes by hitting the "enter" key.
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