白金七九七八 said:
How about giving post #4279505 a chance?
It kinda looks shopped.
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白金七九七八 said:
How about giving post #4279505 a chance?
It kinda looks shopped.
Curious as to what, if anything, is wrong with these pieces.
NeoChaos said:
post #4586871 post #4586874
Curious as to what, if anything, is wrong with these pieces.
Their right foot is either detatched or the ankle broken. For one_knee high_heels the lower leg and foot would be positioned slightly differently.
Good day,
I want to ask to reconsider these two posts, please:
I still don't get why they where deleted (/not approved), there is nothing "special" there, nothing disgusting, hateful or unacceptable, or braking site rules.
Best regards.
nonamethanks said:
That' s ridiculous.
We look really bad when this kind of response is posted. Sometimes the reason a post wasn't approved is simply that it was missed, if an image is not evidently mediocre there's no need to grasp at straws.
Nah, I don't think it was grasping at straws or even facetious. Across all three pieces, bad character design was the difference between the art being good and bad for me. Most users/approvers disliking most-but-not-all tomboy art is just as likely and valid of a reason as most users/approvers not liking furry art. As such, the standards for good tomboy are obviously higher. As with most blacklists being composed of a series of single tags, a single flaw in a piece can often be enough to break it—and the lack of the inclusion of something can be, too (detail, backgrounds, interesting elements, etc.). After all, other than art being low quality, it could just be so unappealing to the point of being disgusting or uninteresting.
I may have kind of ignored some of their rationale, though; either indeed should have replied that those probably just slipped through the cracks, or it's possible my rationale before replying at the time was "well, those approved posts look just as bad, too" or something about the subjective nature of art that an artist may draw character well in one way and not another, but whatever; I don't remember.
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Most short hair girls don't give off repellent tomboy vibes, but I agree that overgeneralizing a certain aspect of all three works as being bad was somewhat lazy/unhelpful (in that instance) and not very constructive or critical of them. Giving good feedback on boring (explicit) art can be tough!
e? said:
Most short hair girls don't give off repellent tomboy vibes, but I agree that overgeneralizing a certain aspect of all three works as being bad was somewhat lazy/unhelpful (in that instance) and not very constructive or critical of them. Giving good feedback on boring (explicit) art can be tough!
If you can't think of any good feedback to give, you should just not give any. Forcing feedback when you don't care is a great way to end up producing detrimental comments.
@Gorodnihi said:
[...] nothing disgusting [...]
While the character art is pretty good, I'd guess the hardcore explicit aspects of each page didn't appeal enough (spread anus + strap-on and pegging + mating press); I found those viscerally disgusting, even if the intent was more than humorous than enticing.
e? said:
While the character art is pretty good, I'd guess the hardcore explicit aspects of each page didn't appeal enough (spread anus + strap-on and pegging + mating press); I found those viscerally disgusting, even if the intent was more than humorous than enticing.
It depends on personal taste. This site is full of pictures like this, but they are fine here. If you doesn't appreciate pegging - that doesn't mean it shouldn't be here, or else. Or how it will be? Mods will approve only pictures which they personally like? Rough example: And if they like only yuri and they strict with that, then what?
Tags, which are generally disgusting, I meant: scat, prolapse e.t.
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Gorodnihi said:
It depends on personal taste. This site is full of pictures like this, but they are fine here. If you doesn't appreciate pegging - that doesn't mean it shouldn't be here, or else. Or how it will be? Mods will approve only pictures which they personally like? Rough example: And if they like only yuri and they strict with that, then what?
Tags, which are generally disgusting, I meant: scat, prolapse e.t.
Yes, generally approvers will approve what they like and not approve things they don't like. As for the images in question, they're just not very good. The subject matter wouldn't prevent them being approved, the quality of the art is just not great.
@Gorodnihi Yeah, I'm aware it ain't scat or anything; just putting my personal distaste out there, which may explain why it wasn't approved.
Also, side note not related to the fact it wasn't approved: As you have the original source, you can be pretty sure that the Pixiv account that uploaded it is the artist, and rather than adding artist request, you should always create a new artist tag by adding one to the post. The upload wizard puts a convenient "Create a new artist" link that usually does most of the work for you by trying to source the information from the artwork page you found it on. Try that link I just posted now—it'll guess the artist details one of your posts specifically—then add the new tag to both posts once you've created it.
Gorodnihi said:
Mods will approve only pictures which they personally like? Rough example: And if they like only yuri and they strict with that, then what?
That's the idea. For the most part, the approval queue is to filter out artwork that break the quality standards, but when it comes down to subjective quality, art having sufficient detail and good composition isn't the only factor. It is sometimes the subject matter, as lower quality (such as art with lower detail or visual fidelity) may get approved if the subject matter isn't extreme (obviously, this mainly applies to explicit posts). After all, there's plenty of cool/cute/sexy art that has the details or quality half-assed, but because they're sufficiently (or "almost objectively") cool/cute/sexy they pass the bar for quality. Being very subjectively grotesque/disgusting usually means the bar is higher in other areas, like detail and visual fidelity.
For example, post #2583380 and post #3060090 aren't very high quality in terms of detail, either (and almost all monochrome sketch posts), but they check quality boxes that those deleted uploads don't. Even I'm tempted to flag post #4589020 as it's gross, explicit art that's not to my tastes—in the same way post #514106 (deleted) is, but also a monochrome sketch—but it does have some nice differences that almost make it worthy of voting up. So I just voted it down instead of flagging it. Maybe on a different day, based on my mood, I'd flag it or just not vote. But forcing oneself to pick up or down on sites like these can be a good idea.
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Ok, I get the point, guys.
Still, I want mods to reconsider decision about these images: post #4588104 and post #4588111
Especially, if you compare them to some other examples (thanks to e?): post #2583380 , post #3060090 , post #4589020 - quality can not be count as a resaon to delete them. And if it's actually true, how its works on this site - your post should fit mods taste, or else it will be deleted... - that just sick.
Unbreakable said:
Yes, the modqueue page straight up says: "As a general rule, you should only approve of posts that you personally like."
And I also dont get it, how as this even a thing that should 'work', just look an example: This post #4588111 got Score: 7 / Favorites: 20 in a three days (which means at least 20 people found it attractive/good this fast), and this post #4589020 got Score: 5 / Favorites: 10 in a three years. I think this is the best example of my line - personal taste should not be the reason to delet an image.
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All of those examples were uploaded by unrestricted uploaders, meaning they didn't have to get approved. They're all better than what you posted anyway, so they're not really relevant.
Gorodnihi said:
And I also dont get it, how as this even a thing that should 'work', just look an example: This post #4588111 got Score: 7 / Favorites: 20 in a three days (which means at least 20 people found it attractive/good this fast), and this post #4589020 got Score: 5 / Favorites: 10 in a three years. I think this is the best example of my line - personal taste should not be the reason to delet an image.
Those were both uploaded 3 days ago, dunno where you got 3 years. Score/favs are also a really awful metric since tons of bad things get many favs by horny people with no standards.
If you have any complaints about things that did or did not get approved, you can use "appeal" or "flag" in the sidebar of a specific post to request it be looked at again.
Gorodnihi said:
And I also dont get it, how as this even a thing that should 'work', just look an example: This post #4588111 got Score: 7 / Favorites: 20 in a three days (which means at least 20 people found it attractive/good this fast), and this post #4589020 got Score: 5 / Favorites: 10 in a three years. I think this is the best example of my line - personal taste should not be the reason to delet an image.
We aren't machines, we can't unbiasedly judge stuff we don't like.
Gorodnihi said:
Ok, I get the point, guys.
Still, I want mods to reconsider decision about these images: post #4588104 and post #4588111
Shaky lines and awful coloring work. Ironically these might have had a better chance if they were uncolored.
Typesetting (font and font color choice, principally) does them no favors either. Seems to use generic Windows fonts (instead of the Antiqua-Gothic combo favored by both pro manga artists and doujin/web-amateur ones), and then randomly changes between multiple fonts and font colors for post #4588111... just for the sake of changing. The font used in post #4588104 also has crappy 'kerning', and then suddenly random line-spacing on the text bubble on the bottom left.
I suppose the Western equivalent would be someone who draws in MS Paint (the linework) and picks flat colors from a predefined palette, and then uses Times New Roman and Arial and Comic Sans as fonts. While using a rainbow palette of font colors.
Also, original characters in a random generic original setting. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but characters from well-known copyrights often get a pass because people might like them enough just because they have a character they like or know.
Overall, mediocre art, but the coloring and typesetting further detracts from the overall art. And it doesn't have saving graces like "character I like" or "interesting concept/pun/joke" that might prompt some people to approve them regardless.
Edit: Oh, and no attributed artist. This shouldn't be a strike against the art, but if people are disinclined to approve in the first place, having to do the extra work to make sure it isn't plagiarized will just make them go, "meh, not gonna bother".
Gorodnihi said:
Especially, if you compare them to some other examples (thanks to e?): post #2583380 , post #3060090 , post #4589020 - quality can not be count as a resaon to delete them. And if it's actually true, how its works on this site - your post should fit mods taste, or else it will be deleted... - that just sick.
We allow all kinds of fetishes here all the time. Nobody is discriminating against yours.
Gorodnihi said:
And I also dont get it, how as this even a thing that should 'work', just look an example: This post #4588111 got Score: 7 / Favorites: 20 in a three days (which means at least 20 people found it attractive/good this fast), and this post #4589020 got Score: 5 / Favorites: 10 in a three years. I think this is the best example of my line - personal taste should not be the reason to delet an image.
Lewds tend to get skewed rating/scores.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4593802
I'm kinda lost as to why, out of the three I submitted for this artist, this was the one that got singled out and left behind.
Not trying to fight, just wanted to understand the thinking behind the decision, or if there's some error with the piece I may have missed.
Thank you for your time.
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This piece of Linn Kurosawa from Capcom's Alien vs. Predator game (post #4598189) got deleted earlier today. Any idea what was wrong with this one? Maybe the character's too niche? Going to appeal soon.
Appealed to return to moderation queue. I don't see what's wrong with this one. Rising popular series and character, and with the current cow print tag pretty prominent for 2021. I feel like it got the short end of the stick with approvers who just don't like the tag, character, or the sexual implication.
