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Flag Vandalism

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Flandre5carlet said:

Mods can still see who flagged something even after it was re-approved, right?

Mods can check the flags and appeals history of a post. It will list who created a flag or appeal for the image.

NWF_Renim said:

Mods can check the flags and appeals history of a post. It will list who created a flag or appeal for the image.

Alright. I wasn't sure because if I check the history myself, I can't see who appealed a post - despite how I would see it if I saw the appeal in progress.

Flandre5carlet said:

Alright. I wasn't sure because if I check the history myself, I can't see who appealed a post - despite how I would see it if I saw the appeal in progress.

It's because you're looking in the wrong place. The Events page is what shows up when you click the Flags & Appeals link under History. You need to search under post appeals (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post_appeals) or post flags (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post_flags) to get more information.

Note: The post flags page will still not show you the creator of the flag unless you are Moderator+.

Compare and contrast the same information from post #2484219 from three separate pages.

Events: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2484219/events
Appeals: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post_appeals?search[post_id]=2484219
Flags: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post_flags?search[post_id]=2484219

fossilnix said:

The wording is kind of silly

Well, yeah.
But as you said: As long as the problem is pointed out, it doesn't matter to me how silly it is.
If someone doesn't agree with the problem, it'll get approved anyway; doesn't matter how serious the flag is written.

Dinglecockles said:

One of my posts was flagged for a stupid reason.
post #2490464
"Neck? Where are you :c?"

The neck could be drawn better, but that isn't enough of a problem to where the entire post should actually be deleted. But I will agree that the flag reason is, frankly, bad. If people are suddenly serious about managing quality through flags, then there should be actual descriptions on what's wrong instead of silly questions with emotes.

In general, this is directed at @Provence and anyone else currently eager to hit the Flag link for whatever your idea of Quality Control is: Start using some discretion and flag for things more egregious than minor details in pictures that don't actually ruin an entire picture for people other than you.

Dragging otherwise decent posts into deletion in the name of pointing out a minor problem is stretching what's intended to be quality control. And if this flagging is scattershot enough to where people are openly taking it personally, pointing it out, not just in comments, but also in a thread called "Flag Vandalism", maybe the flaggers themselves need to be looked at and held to some scrutiny.

I'm getting tired of seeing things on this site being done in volume to the point of bordering on overkill instead of having some actual nuance being taken. Involvement should not excuse excess. Wise up.

If a flag is minor to you, then just approve it and if the flag is actually "ok" then it gets deleted. And yes, I look through the images I flag and if there is in my opinion a big error, then flag. There are also some borderline images, but I don't flag them.
It's not my fault when a post is missing quality..

If you're just talking about this flag: Ok, you're right.

It seems some users will flag the posts if they found even the slightest error on said posts, without considering if it affects the overall quality of image (henceforth, "borderline" quality). I think their mindset is if a pic contains an error, no matter how small it is = bad quality. Quality Control should be renamed as Quality Totalitarian instead.

Sacriven said:

It seems some users will flag the posts if they found even the slightest error on said posts, without considering if it affects the overall quality of image (henceforth, "borderline" quality). I think their mindset is if a pic contains an error, no matter how small it is = bad quality. Quality Control should be renamed as Quality Totalitarian instead.

post #2496730 for example?

Provence said:

If a flag is minor to you, then just approve it and if the flag is actually "ok" then it gets deleted. And yes, I look through the images I flag and if there is in my opinion a big error, then flag. There are also some borderline images, but I don't flag them.
It's not my fault when a post is missing quality..

If you're just talking about this flag: Ok, you're right.

Yes, I know I can just approve flagged images that I don't see as an issue. But as a Moderator, I can also observe and call a flagger themselves into question at the same time. You're actively participating in this, so it's just as much your responsibility.

Apollyon said:

Yes, I know I can just approve flagged images that I don't see as an issue. But as a Moderator, I can also observe and call a flagger themselves into question at the same time. You're actively participating in this, so it's just as much your responsibility.

Well, I will be a bit more gentle and precise when flagging.

Provence said:

post #2496730 for example?

That I can't say, for in the first glance the pic looks alright, but in deeper analysis it contains few errors. For casual purposes I can say it's good, but also questionable. When I uploaded that pic, I thought Junko sits with seiza pose in oversized clothes. I might have a bit biased, though.

I already left it to Moderators and Approvers. If that pic is good, then it's good.

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