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xcv450 said:

BUR #33242 has been rejected.

create implication rin_(honkai_impact) -> higokumaru

human form of Higokumaru

Downvoting because this is in reverse (Higokumaru should imply Rin; Higokumaru should not the base chartag).

Sigewulf said:

Wait Rin is Higokumaru? I thought sakura samsara is not canon anymore.

Sakura Samsara is canon (specifically: it has canon details, the storyline itself isn't), but regardless that wouldn't affect the validity of the implication. The implication is wrong for a different reason (it's in reverse). For all intents and purposes, Higokumaru uses Rin's appearance with slight differences, so the implication should still exist, just not in this direction.

WeakestUploader said:

Downvoting because this is in reverse (Higokumaru should imply Rin; Higokumaru should not the base chartag).

Sakura Samsara is canon (specifically: it has canon details, the storyline itself isn't), but regardless that wouldn't affect the validity of the implication. The implication is wrong for a different reason (it's in reverse). For all intents and purposes, Higokumaru uses Rin's appearance with slight differences, so the implication should still exist, just not in this direction.

Her Higokumaru form has way more posts than her human form.
I guess it could be put the other around, but then what us to be done with the GGZ Higokumaru posts?

Sigewulf said:

Wait Rin is Higokumaru? I thought sakura samsara is not canon anymore.

Rin = PE Herrscher of Corruption = Higokumaru, yeah
(Gratitude Arc + Sakura Samsara 4) is canon, (Sakura Samsara 1 to 3) are not because they are mutually incomtatible with Gratitude Arc.
The Sakura Guard zombie makes explicit mention of the Gratitude Arc incident (with Theresa being less than happy about being put in a cage while possessed) and Jizo Mitama is mentioned in Elysian Realm. Sakura Samsara 4 is basically a sequel to Gratitude Arc.

The post count doesn't matter; it's still wrong. Post count doesn't determine the correctness of the implication. The 11 posts in question of Benghuai Xueyuan still mostly depict the same form as in Honkai Impact 3rd, the only distinction being where the material comes from. The 5 people searching for either do not need a complicated distinction between them. The next best option is to not imply them.

xcv450 said:

BUR #33256 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

rename famine_apocalypse_(benghuai_xueyuan) -> incarnation_(benghuai_xueyuan)

Apparently her current name is a mistake and her actual name is simply Incarnation.

Correct, the current name is an amalgamation of another name ("Famine") and "apocalypse" (the word itself, not Otto's family). She's quite literally one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse personified. I would say the more correct tag to use here would be "famine_(benghuai_xueyuan)". "Incarnation" refers to Jyahnar's theme song.

WRS said:

Correct, the current name is an amalgamation of another name ("Famine") and "apocalypse" (the word itself, not Otto's family). She's quite literally one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse personified. I would say the more correct tag to use here would be "famine_(benghuai_xueyuan)". "Incarnation" refers to Jyahnar's theme song.

From what I have asked GGZ players, Incarnation is the correct name, with her being one of the 4 Knights(?)/Horsemen of Schicksal/Apocalypse during the Legacy time period of Reborn Era, alongside Levi, Iron Maiden, and Zofia.
Famine would therefore be her title instead of her actual name, I guess?
Jyahnar doesn't really come into this until centuries later.
Edit: Checking their moegirls profiles with google translate, Incarnation is Famine, Zofia is War, Levi is Plague/Pestilence, and Iron Maiden is Death?
Edit2: AFAIK they aren't personifacions of those concepts, its just their tittles.

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It's a complex topic because we don't have a fully reliable translation (and never have either) so there is some context and such that's lost in rough translation as well as conflicting titles.

I ended up checking the posts allocated to the current Famine Apocalypse (Benghuai Xueyuan) tag and realise that the "Famine" I'm referring to is different. There are literal personifications of the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (as revealed in equipment and characters) but also titles held by Schicksal members. The chartag in question isn't referring to the same Famine I'm referring to. Even more confusing since they're from the same era.

The mention of Jyahnar comes from the same misunderstanding because typically in the context of GGZ, the word refers to her character song.

I suppose it would be fine to change the name in this instance.

WRS said:

It's a complex topic because we don't have a fully reliable translation (and never have either) so there is some context and such that's lost in rough translation as well as conflicting titles.

I ended up checking the posts allocated to the current Famine Apocalypse (Benghuai Xueyuan) tag and realise that the "Famine" I'm referring to is different. There are literal personifications of the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (as revealed in equipment and characters) but also titles held by Schicksal members. The chartag in question isn't referring to the same Famine I'm referring to. Even more confusing since they're from the same era.

The mention of Jyahnar comes from the same misunderstanding because typically in the context of GGZ, the word refers to her character song.

I suppose it would be fine to change the name in this instance.

That is kind of weird. I haven't heard of such incarnations of the Apocalypse before.
Well, kind of. Closest thing that comes to mind would be the Apocalypse version of Houraiji Kyuushou who saved Kyuushou from Reborn Anira during a dream / nightmare / weird stigmata space stuff and is apparently the disasters of Death Famine War Plague rolled together while also being Kyuushou's dark side or something.
Dunno what's up with that, honestly. I think weird stigmata stuff. But it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Incarnation, Zofia, Levi, and Iron Maiden.

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