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Album Cover as a Meta Tag?

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BUR #17923 has been rejected.

category album_cover -> meta

(Not sure if this will be controversial or not, but then again this is why BURs let people discuss it first before approving or rejecting.)

So Danbooru has a variety of meta tags for a variety of different circumstances. From how artwork came about like gift art and official art to upload circumstances like non-web source or commissioner upload to even asks for help like source request or translation request.

It is that first one I'm here about. At the moment, album cover is a general tag. Yet its sibling, album cover redraw, is a meta tag. Why is that? It feels pretty important, just as important as specifying if something is gift art or a commission. You could even make an argument it is something like official art too, depending on the circumstances. So why is album cover left out?

To me at least, that doesn't make sense, hence this BUR. But if anyone has any better ideas or good reasons why album cover should be a general tag like it is now, please let me know.

Huh. Noted.

I'm still left unsure of why album cover (in this case) didn't make it through the first time though. While it isn't a notable format, it still tells you why something was drawn that does specify how it must be drawn like meme tags or things like the one-hour drawing challenge, similar to other meta tags like commission or gift art. So why is it a general tag then?

But then again, if album cover becomes a meta tag, then we might as well make tags like movie poster or novel cover meta tags as well. I dunno. I'm more just posing the question (again) than anything, as that thread hadn't answered my question. Also, why is album cover redraw a meta tag when album cover is not? Seems kinda weird to me.

Maiden_in_Orange said:

Huh. Noted.

I'm still left unsure of why album cover (in this case) didn't make it through the first time though.

As the argument from the previous topic by Super Affection highlights, you have the nature of the post to consider. As the wiki for the tag highlights, it is used for both real and "mock-up" covers, and raising the tag up to meta would make folks think the tag is exclusively about the former, not the latter. If you look at the three other tags that got rendered into meta tags, novel illustration, end card and video crop, all of them are explicit in terms of what they refer to, and the source is an intrinsic influence on their properties, so there's the meta factor. The only thing album cover shares in common is that they typically follow the same dimensions you'd typically find for album/LP/etc. cover art, and format alone cannot be a factor, especially when it is applied so broadly. The last time a tag like that got discussed, it resulted in former-meta-tag wallpaper getting dismembered, which you can see in its wiki.

Album cover redraw, meanwhile, is intrinsically a derivative work, so it gets a meta tag.

Damian0358 said:

As the wiki for the tag highlights, it is used for both real and "mock-up" covers, and raising the tag up to meta would make folks think the tag is exclusively about the former, not the latter.

Okay, that actually makes a great deal of sense. Does explain why album cover redraw is a meta tag too.

There were two ways I saw this going: either it turned out I was onto something, or there was a very good reason for album cover being a general tag I hadn't considered before. And it seems to be the latter, as those are very good points (as I hadn't considered my suggestion could potentially make things confusing in the case of mock-ups). Your point on formatting is fair, as is the note that it is too broad of a tag (especially since albums can come in all sorts of shapes and sizes).

Well, when you put it like that, this BUR definitely is a bust. I was admittedly more attempting to ask the question than anything, but I figured it was worth a shot nevertheless. Should I just go ahead and reject it then? Unless anyone has any better ideas, I don't see a point in trying to continue with a bad one.

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