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AI-generated art check thread

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123kid said:

I don‘t see how shexyo‘s work should now be treated as fully AI-generated. Inconsistencies are there, hence the ai-assisted tag. Really feels more like some here try to force it because the artist is a scumbag, which is shitty but shouldn‘t matter when judging the art.

They may not be fully ai-generated but a quality check flag is perfectly justified IMO, his work always looked pretty jarringly amateur/traced in the first place, and now the addition of AI artefacts and blurry faces isn't doing it any favors either.

Diet_Soda said:

They may not be fully ai-generated but a quality check flag is perfectly justified IMO, his work always looked pretty jarringly amateur/traced in the first place, and now the addition of AI artefacts and blurry faces isn't doing it any favors either.

You tag it ai-assisted as a quality check? Just feels like a weak excuse to tag it as such and nothing more. You know damn well that people that are new here, that just casually browse danbooru, will just see AI and not look into what assisted means and what generated means. And what 123kid is 100% correct. Shex is targeted because of bias. He may have traced his previous works, but to just go ahead and to it to the rest of his pictures without proof is ridiculus. Also, calling his art amateur? Im sure you have a good comparison for what you consider good then. I genuinely want to know.

Which brings me to my next question, why now? Why is it only now being reported en masse? Most of these images that were listed are at least a month old or longer. There was plenty of time to do this before. Usually an image gets flagged immediately or at least a day after its posted and gets removed. It feels like a small group of approvers gathered to report and vote images from the platform simply becuase they dont like a certain artist. Ive seen images taken down by 20 people or more. All of these have the same amount of voters. Atm its 15 and im sure if someone can check, it will also be the same people voting, which as of right now, all have 2 believe it has poor quality, and 13 did not like it.
And all the while the images have 300+ uvotes which is clearly a sign fhat the majority thinks they are good images.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

Infantramen said:
Which brings me to my next question, why now? Why is it only now being reported en masse? Most of these images that were listed are at least a month old or longer. There was plenty of time to do this before. Usually an image gets flagged immediately or at least a day after its posted and gets removed. It feels like a small group of approvers gathered to report and vote images from the platform simply becuase they dont like a certain artist. Ive seen images taken down by 20 people or more. All of these have the same amount of voters. Atm its 15 and im sure if someone can check, it will also be the same people voting, which as of right now, all have 2 believe it has poor quality, and 13 did not like it.
And all the while the images have 300+ uvotes which is clearly a sign fhat the majority thinks they are good images.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

How many times does it need to be said that score number doesn't matter when most people see boobs and hit upvote? Traced art is very much worth a quality check flag especially when a lot of it is poorly done or leads to weird proportions.

It isn't against the rules, but its also not immune from scrutiny.

zetsubousensei said:

How many times does it need to be said that score number doesn't matter when most people see boobs and hit upvote? Traced art is very much worth a quality check flag especially when a lot of it is poorly done or leads to weird proportions.

It isn't against the rules, but its also not immune from scrutiny.

Do a quality check, that fine. Why slap an AI tag on it? If it's traced, shouldn't it be tagged derivative work?

Infantramen said:

Do a quality check, that fine. Why slap an AI tag on it? If it's traced, shouldn't it be tagged derivative work?

Derivative_work and ai_assisted are two seperate tags, one or both may apply to images. Shexyo posts aren't currently tagged ai-generated but a lot show clear ai assistance. Earlier ones have proof of tracing, but I don't think that applies to his new stuff.

Infantramen said:

You tag it ai-assisted as a quality check? Just feels like a weak excuse to tag it as such and nothing more. You know damn well that people that are new here, that just casually browse danbooru, will just see AI and not look into what assisted means and what generated means. And what 123kid is 100% correct. Shex is targeted because of bias. He may have traced his previous works, but to just go ahead and to it to the rest of his pictures without proof is ridiculus. Also, calling his art amateur? Im sure you have a good comparison for what you consider good then. I genuinely want to know.

Which brings me to my next question, why now? Why is it only now being reported en masse? Most of these images that were listed are at least a month old or longer. There was plenty of time to do this before. Usually an image gets flagged immediately or at least a day after its posted and gets removed. It feels like a small group of approvers gathered to report and vote images from the platform simply becuase they dont like a certain artist. Ive seen images taken down by 20 people or more. All of these have the same amount of voters. Atm its 15 and im sure if someone can check, it will also be the same people voting, which as of right now, all have 2 believe it has poor quality, and 13 did not like it.
And all the while the images have 300+ uvotes which is clearly a sign fhat the majority thinks they are good images.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

"AI-assisted" and "quality work" are oxymorons.

gfz said:

I noticed @Diet_Soda tagged a bunch of posts by wodeipoi as ai-assisted, but I don't see anything about it on the forums. I also don't see anything on social media about this artist using AI. Was there a forum post and I'm just not able to find it through search?

The artist seems to have undergone a style shift into generic AI lighting and rendering somewhere starting with this post. Not all of their recent works look AI but the ones that do are pretty bad, try zooming in on the face in post #7500766 (now deleted from their artstation) or kimono patterns in post #7500784, post #7500761.

Infantramen said:

I am not the one who flagged it or tagged it and there's no approver conspiracy or hidden agenda behind the timing. Blatantly poor quality and contentious stuff like this gets a lot more poor quality & disinterest checks than the average post because it's a no-brainer automatic decision for most approvers, meanwhile the rest of the queue will often take an extra click or zoom-in to judge only to leave them on the fence anyway. No one has to approve a post they don't like and approvers tend not to like mediocre porn, much less obviously AI-rendered mediocre porn, that's all there is to it.

Also, calling his art amateur? Im sure you have a good comparison for what you consider good then. I genuinely want to know.

Have you ever looked at any art at all outside bottom of the barrel hentai? shexyo has only ever produced the same 5 shitty copypasted poses with muddled shading, stiff linework, and faces that look like a headshopped afterthought to a horribly rendered ass. He's monkeying his references without a lick of understanding of what makes them look good because he is not looking to develop art skills, he's looking for easy clout and money and there's no better way to get it than posting boobs and asses on twitter. If being "biased" means simply finding subpar art subpar then I guess I am. An artwork can have plenty of merit beyond technical execution of course but this is just mass-produced slop targeted at the lowest common denominator with or without AI involvement. But this is a discussion for the upload feedback thread, not here.

FivePastNever said:

https://x.com/YoukaiRanRan/status/1799273263786532928

At first glance I didn't think much of it, but a second time it triggered my suspicions with the coloring and the 500x500 resolution.

The low resolution is a bit strange, but what about the coloring makes you suspicious? I can't see any of the usual AI mess-ups. Symmetry, ribbons, bows, bells and the partially occluded tail all look fine and those are usually the prime suspects for AI shenanigans.

Not sure what to make of the strange pattern that’s all over the image, though: 0.1 gamma version Is that actually one of the patterns intended to defeat AI-learning?

kittey said:

The low resolution is a bit strange, but what about the coloring makes you suspicious? I can't see any of the usual AI mess-ups. Symmetry, ribbons, bows, bells and the partially occluded tail all look fine and those are usually the prime suspects for AI shenanigans.

Not sure what to make of the strange pattern that’s all over the image, though: 0.1 gamma version Is that actually one of the patterns intended to defeat AI-learning?

I meant the pattern yeah. I know of glazing to prevent AI scrapping, but haven't seen it like this before, so I wanted to be rather safe than sorry.

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