Donmai

Flag Vandalism

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WRS

For what it's worth, there were a few more like that: post #2407227, post #2745072 and post #2382920

They were all instantly reflagged after being approved to negate the bad flag reason. It seems to be the same approver doing this every time; there's been a string of posts that have been immediately reflagged with, verbatim including capitalisation, "Poor quality" - as in, there's an approver using event listener to immediately reflag posts that have bad flag reasons rejected with "poor quality" instead (nice lack of explanation, but they aren't wrong in most cases).

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FubukiKai

Nacha said:

Kinda weird, it also got flagged instantly again after reapprove.

This has also happened to me. Honestly absurdly scummy behavior to re-flag something just because some other approver did the entire point of the approval system and disagreed with you. Just comes off as salty and revengey.

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CoreMack

FubukiKai said:

This has also happened to me. Honestly absurdly scummy behavior to re-flag something just because some other approver did the entire point of the approval system and disagreed with you. Just comes off as salty and revengey.

Sometimes you see someone complaining about a flag, and you check the post, and it sucks and you agree that it should have been flagged. But some other approver has already approved it. So you re flag it yourself. There's nothing "absurdly scummy" about that, that is just the modqueue at work. It wasn't me this time but I've done it before. I don't think the flagger is the salty one here.

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ANON TOKYO

I'd also ideally like to see it as the modqueue at work, but I don't think it's an unreasonable suspicion given the petty shit some people get up to on this site. It's also not exactly helped by absolutely low-effort "Poor quality" flag reason, a favorite of these sorts of flaggers.

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flanchan

FubukiKai said:

This has also happened to me. Honestly absurdly scummy behavior to re-flag something just because some other approver did the entire point of the approval system and disagreed with you. Just comes off as salty and revengey.

If a flag is well-founded and not low-effort like @ANON_TOKYO describes, then I don't see how doing this would be considered scummy.

CoreMack said:

Sometimes you see someone complaining about a flag, and you check the post, and it sucks and you agree that it should have been flagged. But some other approver has already approved it. So you re flag it yourself. There's nothing "absurdly scummy" about that, that is just the modqueue at work. It wasn't me this time but I've done it before. I don't think the flagger is the salty one here.

+1

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zetsubousensei

CoreMack said:

Sometimes you see someone complaining about a flag, and you check the post, and it sucks and you agree that it should have been flagged. But some other approver has already approved it. So you re flag it yourself. There's nothing "absurdly scummy" about that, that is just the modqueue at work. It wasn't me this time but I've done it before. I don't think the flagger is the salty one here.

I have no issue with someone reflagging a post especially since bad art does get reapproved. I think it's scummy though to camp EL or wait for art to be approved just to flag it again. Naturally running across it or someone else complaing like in your example is a different practice than what seems to be descibed by the other few posters.

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CoreMack

zetsubousensei said:

I think it's scummy though to camp EL or wait for art to be approved just to flag it again.

I don't really see why (and we have zero evidence to suggest anyone is actually doing this beyond speculation). I'll leave a tab open with a post in it to come back to later if I have strong feelings about whether it should be active or not and I suspect that it's soon to get flagged or approved. Using EL is just an automated way of doing that. There's no rule that says approvers have to naturally stumble across every post we interact with–if you have strong opinions on a post, you're completely entitled to come back and check on it.

We all know that certain posts are likely to get flagged and approved multiple times. The number of approver eyes on a post skyrockets whenever it's posted in Discord. High quality political posts will be re-flagged by flaggers who hate the message of the post and are blind to its merits. Low quality political posts will be re-approved by approvers who interpret a flag as an attack on their politics and are unable to see the quality issues. These are types of posts that approvers should be keeping a closer eye on.

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