I'm not sure whether or not to approve some of these so I hope some discussion can bring out some ideas. Hopefully the original submitters can comment also.
Implication: gothic_lolita -> gothic
I realize now that gothic lolita is a distinct fashion style, but I'm not sure whether it should have any relation to the gothic tag, or whether an alias would be more useful.
Alias: group_sex -> gangbang
Are these two equivalent? For the record, there exists a groupsex -> orgy alias currently.
Alias: heart -> <3
I think the organ is a potential use for heart tag so I don't know if these two should be equivalent, or whether <3 should be aliased to heart.
Alias: kalashinokov -> ak-47
I can sorta see Kalashnikov being used for a name sometime.
Are these two equivalent? For the record, there exists a groupsex -> orgy alias currently.
I would suggest that orgy and gangbang imply group_sex, rather than it being equivalent to one or the other.
Alias: heart -> <3
I think the organ is a potential use for heart tag so I don't know if these two should be equivalent, or whether <3 should be aliased to heart.
I'd think that hearts in the valentine's day sense are far more common, and so should get the heart tag. I'd suggest heart_(organ) for the thing I use to pump blood out of my basement.
(I don't think that ascii-art tags should be used as the primary tag for anything, but only as aliases.)
Alias: kalashinokov -> ak-47
I can sorta see Kalashnikov being used for a name sometime.
Of course, few will spell it right, anyway. :-) IIRC, he's developed other guns as well, so it's probably best to require the specific model.
I'd vote no, no, no, abstain. Gothic lolita isn't necessarily gothic, because the first would refer to a character's style of dress, whereas the second would refer to the overall theme of the image. Gangbangs (to my understanding, at least) involve all but one person being of the same sex (usually male), so an implication gangbang -> group_sex would make sense. Heart could be an organ, but <3 couldn't, making it a more specific tag. I don't know what the hell a Kalashnikov is :P
From my understanding, group sex isn't necessarily the same thing as a gangbang. A gangbang is several people having sex with 1 person (although there may be more than 1 gangbang going on in the same room/area, which would be 2 separate instances of gangbanging, thus a pic with 2 girls can be labeled "gangbang"), usually simultaneously. Group sex is basically just more than 2 people having sex with each other or within the immediate vicinity of each other. A gangbang would count as groupsex, but other "groupsex" things might not be a gangbang, for example two couples having sex in the same room, or an orgy. I think gangbang and orgy should have "group sex" as an implication, but not alias.
There should definitely be separate tags for the heart symbol and the actual organ. Which tags are used for which I don't care.
Gothic lolita is not the same thing as gothic. As someone else pointed out, gothic lolita is mainly a fashion style, while gothic describes atmosphere.
As for ak-47, I say leave Kalashnikov and ak-47 separate, because as others have pointed out, there are more models than that, and as you pointed out, it could be used as an actual name. Tags should be specific.
"Implication: gothic_lolita -> gothic" Reject. Not every gothic_lolita image really needs gothic, and if one does people can add it manually.
"Alias: group_sex -> gangbang" Reject. I've never thought of them as being the same exact thing. Quick dictionary check confirms my view that gangbang implies something more forceful, even violent. If anything, the latter is the narrower of the two, so it'd be Implication: gangbang -> group_sex, with no aliases. I say just leave them both alone though.
"Alias: heart -> <3" Reject. Two different tags, and potential tag conflict with 'heart' being used for a character, show, artist, etc.
"Alias: kalashinokov -> ak-47" Reject. As others have said, the ak-47 isn't the only type of Kalashnikov, and while I don't really care much, I'm sure seeing, I dunno, an ak-74 tagged as an ak-47 would drive gun fanatics insaaaaane. Again, if anything, the alias should go the other way, but I vote just leaving both alone.
Wikipedia says "A gang bang (or gangbang) is a situation in which either a woman or a man, has sexual intercourse with multiple partners in turn or at the same time." I think we should go with this definition. Example of gangbangs: post #228518 and post #179161.
A threesome is two women having sex with one man. One woman having sex with two or more men is a gangbang.
group_sex should be used when there are more than one group of people having sex. There could even be two or more ganbanging groups (post #244709, post #241581) or threesome groups. They are unrelated.
post #248413 is group_sex but not orgy. Although I'm kind of unsure where the bottom group fits in my definitions. Three girls having sex. It can't be a threesome anymore so maybe from now on three or more girls having sex with each other have to be yuri+orgy, or maybe *sigh* multiple yuri.
While we are on the subject of defining, I think we need to define Gothic. It doesn't even have a wiki entry at the moment. Is it referring architecture, or fashion, or what? Most of the posts are just girls wearing dark clothes.
Didn't feel like making a new topic for this... should black rock shooter imply vocaloid? Far as I can tell they all have Miku, but lots of them are getting uploaded without a vocaloid tag.
Sounds like a good idea. There should probably also be a black_rock_shooter -> black★rock_shooter alias, and maybe /brs, too. The unicode Black Star is a little annoying to type, generally.
Following up with what I said in forum #7705 I have been running into some kinks while tagging according to these definitions.
The first one I had already discussed was the case of an all-female threesome for which I came up with a temporary solution in the threesome wiki as I simply could not say that a yuri threesome wasn't a threesome.
Secondly, I've been running into some images which I'm not very sure I should be tagging with gangbang since there's no actual 'banging' going on, posts like post #221301 where there's one girl and two or more dicks but it's not a bukkake. It's like multiple_fellatio only instead of multiple girls on one guy it's a bunch of cocks on one girl. Any ideas on what tag would be appropriate for these? . . . Does multiple_penises sound good?
DschingisKhan said: Sounds like a good idea. There should probably also be a black_rock_shooter -> black★rock_shooter alias, and maybe /brs, too. The unicode Black Star is a little annoying to type, generally.
You should make this go the other way. We've decided that normalized tags should not contain non-ascii characters.
