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Since the topic is likely to generate some discussion (like P&S) time for it's own thread.
My feelings on the subject are as thus: About 60%+ of the images in the pool atm do not fit the criteria.
Someone stepped up to cull, good for them. That pool needed it (and it should really be a tag anyway shouldn't it?)
Updated by S1eth
I am the user who purged pool #903. I apologize for taking unilateral action without consulting more experienced members.
My methodology was to eliminate the most patently unremarkable posts, e.g. pictures of girls simply standing and smiling. I tried to avoid removing posts whose value might be more subjective.
I'll cut off the talk of making a tag right quick with tag group:subjective.
As to the pool my opinion is that it can be useful if it's scraped and restarted, but this time some the more veteran users keep a real choke hold on it. The real question is it worth all the effort it would entail?
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Scarlet_200% said:
(and it should really be a tag anyway shouldn't it?)
No, no, no, sweet mother of mercy, no. The criterion for inclusion in the pool is "cute". It is virtually the definition of a subjective trait. Under no circumstances can it ever become a tag.
And it can never really ever be a useful pool, either. Not only is there no objective definition of "cute"-ness level, there is no effective proxy for "cute"-ness level. In, say, Perfect Ass, you could, potentially, objectively consider the prominence, roundness, or other characteristics of asses; in Nostalgia, you could speculate on the likelihood that anyone remembers the topic at hand.
For "Disgustingly Adorable", there is naught but despair. And, given the percentage of users who have some interest in its contents, it will continue to bring us misery so long as it exists. It is doomed to be Danbooru's Kashmir, only instead of actual senseless violence, it will produce butthurt weeaboos en masse. There is no hope for it whatsoever.
tl;dr I think we should burn it down and collect the insurance money.
glasnost said:
And it can never really ever be a useful pool, either.
It seems to me that if one can speculate on the likelihood that users will experience nostalgia upon visiting the Nostalgia pool, one can speculate on the likelihood that users will find a picture disgustingly cute.
I agree that the pool could be trimmed down, but one's person opinion won't do for this. And GrandAdmiralSean, it'll be a while before anyone finishes looking through things.
Certain artists have a higher DA factor in general, yume shokunin, that Hentai samurai guy with the Chibi Rumias, Saya26, and so forth. Stuff by them in the pool needs a good look before thinking about deleting.
Sheep Mikus are merely cute, they're not TakoLukas.
I'll try looking through it today; I don't have much bigger in the ways of plans.
GrandAdmiralSean8 said:
It seems to me that if one can speculate on the likelihood that users will experience nostalgia upon visiting the Nostalgia pool, one can speculate on the likelihood that users will find a picture disgustingly cute.
Well, yes, but some logic could potentially be applied to determining the former, e.g. how common/universal the experience/topic in question is. For cuteness, what is there? How big and watery the eyes are? The fluffiness level of the characters?
StriderTuna said:
Sheep Mikus are merely cute, they're not TakoLukas.
I mean, my God, look. This is the sort of bizarre facsimile of order you have to apply to the world when you try to subject the pool to even the merest trace of objectivity.
Cyberia-Mix said:
For overly large pools I think a "no more than one post per artist" rule is really necessary.
I question this.
Why, exactly? Because you might get bored of an artist? Who it's made by, and how often they draw in that style does not diminish the content of any individual image, does it? It can be argued that not every picture by that artist deserves adding to the pool, but I see no reasonable basis on which to say that you should restrict images by artist.
indeed while looking though stuff I've found a few Yume Shokunin picks I didn't add back due to the fact that well ultimately they were merely cute. But at the same time some cute artists have variations in style.
post #679772 , is it worthy of DA? I figured it'd have a good chance since it's Yanagi and it has 3 mini suikas in addition to the usual Yanagi Chibi Suika.
Is opinion not a large part of the purpose of a subjective pool?
Is DA getting this flak just because it's grown so large?
I can't help but feel like it's only being targeted because of how many images it has. If it needs some clearing out, fine and dandy, but why the sudden call for killing it?
Because we need a proof that the pool worth it.
If it's not a rare subject, and nobody bothers to police the pool at all, what we get is just a dumping place where anyone can stuff things in without having to think.
So I'm asking for anybody who is passionate enough to save the pool: step up and clean it. Or else I'm gonna ask for the deletion because it's entirely ill-defined.
Arrei said:
Is opinion not a large part of the purpose of a subjective pool?Is DA getting this flak just because it's grown so large?
I can't help but feel like it's only being targeted because of how many images it has. If it needs some clearing out, fine and dandy, but why the sudden call for killing it?
It's getting flak for how large it's grown mainly combined with picky folks getting their panties in a knot.
But in many places with more than one group the opinion of many > the opinion of one. Arrei, you an example of someone whose view on things is often "Just your opinion"
And as far as my choices of what I add, generally I try to see how other people would react. Example: People generally like Yume Shokunin or Yanagi chibis. So far I've skipped over a few of them though as I felt they weren't up to the usual standard. As as far as Yume's young Sakuya picture, I've seen various pics of inferior quality in the pool.
rantuyetmai said:
Because we need a proof that the pool worth it.If it's not a rare subject, and nobody bothers to police the pool at all, what we get is just a dumping place where anyone can stuff things in without having to think.
So I'm asking for anybody who is passionate enough to save the pool: step up and clean it. Or else I'm gonna ask for the deletion because it's entirely ill-defined.
Slippery slope man, what's next? the Badass pool, or the "What do you mean it's not awesome pool"? You're taking this whole thing too seriously, man.
StriderTuna said:
Slippery slope man, what's next? the Badass pool, or the "What do you mean it's not awesome pool"? You're taking this whole thing too seriously, man.
Ohhoho, I'm showing you the seriousness of things son, not taking it too seriously because I'm not the one who put down the last coin.
What would you think if I'm beginning to start a pool of "Unconventional drawing"? Most of the stuffs Gobolt uploads would fall in it, and nobody can tell me otherwise that it's indistinguishable from other pictures.
Bottom line: we don't need a too common theme pool, whereas you can find the picture in every other posts or so.
Arrei said:
Is opinion not a large part of the purpose of a subjective pool?Is DA getting this flak just because it's grown so large?
I can't help but feel like it's only being targeted because of how many images it has. If it needs some clearing out, fine and dandy, but why the sudden call for killing it?
I like the pool and the concept but for me I am a bit of a stickler for the definition. There is atm far too much that really is just "cute" and not "DAWWWWWW OMG that is swoo cwute".
The pool has it's place it just needs to be policed trimmed back to the very "best of the best" atm, then go from there.
