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The Vtuber Alternate Costume Tagging Proposal

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Damian0358

alphashitlord said:

BUR #38056 has been rejected.

create implication kizuna_ai_(musician) -> kizuna_ai
create implication kizuna_ai_(festive)_(azur_lane) -> kizuna_ai
create implication kizuna_ai_(future_notes)_(smc) -> kizuna_ai
create implication kizuna_ai_(2025) -> kizuna_ai

Adding implications for a few of Kizuna Ai's costumes.

Kizuna Ai (Musician) was deliberately skipped in forum #250878 because it is a composite tag and should be broken up. On Kizuna Ai (2025), she literally just returned yesterday and it's been left ambiguous what she'll be doing appearance-wise. Given how little people upload art of her, it seems unnecessary early to make a tag.

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evazion

BUR #37924 has been approved by @evazion.

create implication akagi_wen_(1st_costume) -> akagi_wen
create implication akagi_wen_(2nd_costume) -> akagi_wen
create implication hibachi_mana_(1st_costume) -> hibachi_mana
create implication hibachi_mana_(2nd_costume) -> hibachi_mana
create implication saiki_ittetsu_(1st_costume) -> saiki_ittetsu
create implication saiki_ittetsu_(2nd_costume) -> saiki_ittetsu
create implication usami_rito_(1st_costume) -> usami_rito
create implication usami_rito_(2nd_costume) -> usami_rito

BUR #37925 has been approved by @evazion.

create implication hoshirube_sho_(1st_costume) -> hoshirube_sho
create implication hoshirube_sho_(2nd_costume) -> hoshirube_sho
create implication inami_rai_(1st_costume) -> inami_rai
create implication inami_rai_(2nd_costume) -> inami_rai
create implication koyanagi_rou_(1st_costume) -> koyanagi_rou
create implication koyanagi_rou_(2nd_costume) -> koyanagi_rou
create implication murakumo_kagetsu_(1st_costume) -> murakumo_kagetsu
create implication murakumo_kagetsu_(2nd_costume) -> murakumo_kagetsu
create implication murakumo_kagetsu_(3rd_costume) -> murakumo_kagetsu

All these outfits have perfectly good names listed for them in their wikis ("Loungewear", "Casual", "Yakuza", "Live", "Punk", etc). We should be using those names for them instead.

It drives me nuts when we go out of our way to give names to costumes in the wiki, because numbered costumes are incomprehensible, yet we refuse to use those names for the tag themselves.

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nth color

BUR #38517 is pending approval.

create implication natori_sana_(nurse) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(magical_natori) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(school_uniform) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(santa) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(jiangshi) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(sana_channel_king) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(miko) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(parade) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(devil_natori) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(hospital_gown) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(yukata) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(detective_agency_head) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(jersey) -> natori_sana
create implication natori_sana_(isekai_pun_summoner) -> natori_sana

Implications for Natori Sana's costumes. Sources for the names, just in case: Nurse, Magical Natori, School Uniform, Santa, Jiangshi, Sana Channel King, Miko, Parade, Devil Natori, the hospital gown one has a 3D model but it's unnamed for ~reasons~ so I just went with the most obvious trait, Yukata, Detective Agency Head, Jersey, Isekai Pun Summoner.

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TheGamingRodent The Kawaii Enthusiast nekronyu AbsoluteRainbow zerotoinfinity
AbsoluteRainbow

evazion said:

For what purpose? We don't need numbered costume tags once they have a name.

Not anymore. Numbered costume tags are not needed once the costume names are all confirmed.

UPDATE: HoloAdvent gIrls still numbered their default costumes on their respective tags. (Noticed this on post #8983872 myself by looking through its tags) What should we do with it?

Updated

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alphashitlord

AbsoluteRainbow said:

UPDATE: HoloAdvent gIrls still numbered their default costumes on their respective tags. (Noticed this on post #8983872 myself by looking through its tags) What should we do with it?

That's how it is with most vtubers to be honest. I personally wouldn't mind if we changed the qualifier (for unnamed ones anyways) to something like (default) or (original costume) though.

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Damian0358

alphashitlord said:

That's how it is with most vtubers to be honest. I personally wouldn't mind if we changed the qualifier (for unnamed ones anyways) to something like (default) or (original costume) though.

This was one of the earliest discussions in this thread, around pages 8 and 10, and we couldn't reach an agreement then due to the variability of the 1st costume. While default = original = regular = etc aligns for some VTubers, it doesn't for others. You can't use "original" for VTubers with (old_design) costume tags like Suisei, etc., you can't use "default" for VTubers who have changed defaults after getting a significant surplus of costumes such as AZKi, some Niji and VSPO VTubers, and even then using "default" means that we'd be forced to do upkeep if they switch to a new default, so there's no one good alternative for (1st_costume).

It's why it was ultimately decided that the 1st costumes are probably the only ones that can stay as they are, because you don't have to check the wiki or mentally remember which costume it is.

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