As above. This allows for a bunch of worthwhile 2-tag searches while still encompassing all the option shown in the table above, plus I think it also makes a certain degree of intuitive sense for someone not familiar with our tagging procedures (despite it being a deeper implication tree).
As above. This allows for a bunch of worthwhile 2-tag searches while still encompassing all the option shown in the table above, plus I think it also makes a certain degree of intuitive sense for someone not familiar with our tagging procedures (despite it being a deeper implication tree).
Yeah, I think this probably makes the most sense and is about the least amount of complicated this can get. It's going to be a little complicated no matter what.
As above. This allows for a bunch of worthwhile 2-tag searches while still encompassing all the option shown in the table above, plus I think it also makes a certain degree of intuitive sense for someone not familiar with our tagging procedures (despite it being a deeper implication tree).
My proposal has the benefit of simplicity: 1 main tag with three subtags. The downside is that there's certain reasonable concepts (normal Mutsumi, i.e. the first row of my chart; non-normal Mutsumi, i.e. any of costume, outfit, doll) are very awkward to search for Builders, and outright unsearchable by blue names.
Your latest BUR has the upside that "normal Mutsumi" and "non-normal Mutsumi" are searchable with one or two tags. The downside is that this now requires a three-tier hierarchy with a fifth umbrella tag in the middle.
Honestly, I'm fine with either. If anything a slight preference for yours. They're both kinda ugly but some ugliness will be required if we want to maintain searchability of all the things fans will want to search for.
Since Mutsumi's since-introduced doll form has gotten some of its own coverage in art (and also some artists who apparently in hindsight got ahead of the anime in depicting Mutsumi as a doll, as in post #8719217 and post #8731467), I thought it was probably a good idea to have the tag differentiating the Mutsumi doll from the Mortis one. Since this one's a relatively simple implication to Mutsumi next to the Mortis tree, I don't figure this should change much.
I think it's just too many tags to have both a mortis_(doll) tag and a wakaba_mutsumi_(doll) tag. We're at a pretty high level of tag complexity already and that's just too many tags for one character.
It should be fine to just have one doll tag, and combine it with the others as necessary. With either of the two doll tags, you're going to have to combine it with the persona and outfit tags anyway to be totally accurate, so it's really only a difference in name.
I think it's just too many tags to have both a mortis_(doll) tag and a wakaba_mutsumi_(doll) tag. We're at a pretty high level of tag complexity already and that's just too many tags for one character.
It should be fine to just have one doll tag, and combine it with the others as necessary. With either of the two doll tags, you're going to have to combine it with the persona and outfit tags anyway to be totally accurate, so it's really only a difference in name.
Well, if there's going to be one doll tag for both, I'm not really sure what it would be called. I hesitated to make the Mutsumi doll tag precisely because I thought myself it might be overkill, but then I saw a few posts of Mutsumi's doll form (post #8833922 and post #8823929) being tagged as Mortis dolls, and I felt like that needed correcting somehow. I think it'd be especially egregious now with uploads like post #8837414 where tagging that as "mortis_(doll)" would lead to Mortis being tagged when there's no indication of either the Mortis persona or costume in the picture.
I guess to solve that, we could either 1) leave it as is and make the implications 2) nuke the Mutsumi doll tag and leave the Mortis doll tag while letting Mutsumi doll searches be covered by a combination of the "wakaba_mutsumi" and "character_doll" tags, 3) make a combined tag for both, or 4) just nuke both the doll tags and relegate pictures of the doll forms to a pool while tagging existing "mortis_(doll)" pictures as "mortis_(persona)" (or just not make a pool at all and let the doll forms be unsearchable except by the generic character_doll tag).
I think the option I'd most favor is the first one-- as I said, it really doesn't seem that big a deal to me to have one more tag for this instance of Mutsumi, especially when it isn't directly impacting the proposed Mortis implication branches (we've already got tons of implications along these lines elsewhere for alternate versions of characters, e.g. transformations, alternate costumes, seasonal variants etc., and they haven't been problematic at all, as far as I can tell). But, if that's really not desired, then I would support the compromise of just nuking both doll tags, and making it so that the "mortis_(persona)" tag applies to any instance of Mortis as a character, be it appearing as a doll or while controlling Mutsumi's body, while putting all the "doll" pictures in a pool so that anyone who really wants to find them can still do so.
