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pool #16573 "Indirect Sexual Acts"
A pool like this needs textual context for a post to be added and for that to happen it either needs to be in English or be translated. ~translated ~translation_request is:nsfw is worth 230K+ posts. I don't see the vision here; the name is confusing and it would be difficult to tag upfront if neither of the two aforementioned criterion are met, and no one is going back through that many posts to get such an obscure concept added.
I can't reasonably see it getting searched either. It only having 4 posts is pretty indicative of how poorly surfaced it is.
pool #2355 "Chaos"
I feel like this collection pool could be turned into a tag with a simple rename since chaos just by itself is ambiguous. How about using the synonym "anarchy" as the tag name?
Alixiron said:
pool #2355 "Chaos"
I feel like this collection pool could be turned into a tag with a simple rename since chaos just by itself is ambiguous. How about using the synonym "anarchy" as the tag name?
Anarchy is also a political movement. I don't think it would be a good rename for this.
BUR #35995 is pending approval.
nuke pool:23198
Covered by worldwide_miku hatsune_miku
pool #23198 - "Vocaloid - Mikus of the World"
Posts depicting Hatsune Miku imagined as a citizen of a certain country, either by wearing casual clothes common to the region or traditional attire.
These have been drawn for a while due to Miku's status as a globally loved idol, but they recently picked up in quantity due to the popularity of Brazilian Miku, posted on August 17th 2024. For the art trend in specific, see Worldwide Miku.
The mid-2024 art trend of drawing Hatsune Miku in different countries' clothing, whether it be urban casual or traditional, or otherwise representing something in the world, no matter what or when.
It gained traction as a Twitter trend following the viral boom of Brazilian Miku, posted on August 17th 2024, and quickly began to expand in scope beyond that initial template, first going beyond urban casual to encompass traditional clothes, then regional subdivisions of countries, nations without countries, historical countries, subcultures, fictional nations and worlds, prehistoric beings, and so on, until she became Everything Miku. This tag also includes posts which reference the trend specifically too, ex. post #8055554 and post #8063674, instances of other vocal synth characters having this trend applied to them such as Teto, and sub-trends developed out of this trend, such as in January 2025 with Argentinian Miku.
RaisingK said:
Covered by worldwide_miku hatsune_miku
The pool and the tag do not fully overlap. Searching pool:23198 -worldwide_miku allows you to (or rather allowed you to, before your wrongful edits which I've now undone) to search for Mikus of the World which predate the Worldwide Miku meme trend - art from before mid-August 2024 ala post #684361 from 2010 should not be in that tag. Meanwhile worldwide_miku -pool:23198 is:sfw would allow you to search for posts that were made as a result of the meme trend which did not qualify for the pool, from the benign such as other vocal synths being represented such as Teto ala post #8227273 to the referential ala post #8056629 to the downright absurd ala post #8058328.
This BUR falaciously misrepresents the relationship the pool and the tag has, and uses the tag inappropriately.
I don't mind the prospect of the pool getting nuked for being redundant, as it does largely overlap with the tag, but I draw the line to the tag itself being misused like that.
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Damian0358 said:
The pool and the tag do not fully overlap. Searching pool:23198 -worldwide_miku allows you to (or rather allowed you to, before your wrongful edits which I've now undone) to search for Mikus of the World which predate the Worldwide Miku meme trend - art from before mid-August 2024 ala post #684361 from 2010 should not be in that tag. Meanwhile worldwide_miku -pool:23198 is:sfw would allow you to search for posts that were made as a result of the meme trend which did not qualify for the pool, from the benign such as other vocal synths being represented such as Teto ala post #8227273 to the referential ala post #8056629 to the downright absurd ala post #8058328.
This BUR falaciously misrepresents the relationship the pool and the tag has, and uses the tag inappropriately.
I don't mind the prospect of the pool getting nuked for being redundant, as it does largely overlap with the tag, but I draw the line to the tag itself being misused like that.
Your "predate the meme" distinction is worthless; post #684361 depicts a regional Miku, so the tag fits. Things like post #8227273 are why I included hatsune_miku in my above search.
You are using the tag inappropriately. Stop removing it.
RaisingK said:
Your "predate the meme" distinction is worthless; post #684361 depicts a regional Miku, so the tag fits. Things like post #8227273 are why I included hatsune_miku in my above search.
You are using the tag inappropriately. Stop removing it.
No one talking about the Worldwide Miku meme trend is referring to stuff from before mid-August 2024! Even Know Your Meme acknowledges that it's from then on! This is like tagging Jack-O' Challenge on top-down bottom-up posts which just vaguely resemble the challenge the tag is about! You're the one using the tag inappropriately, stop adding it.
RaisingK said:
Your "predate the meme" distinction is worthless; post #684361 depicts a regional Miku, so the tag fits. Things like post #8227273 are why I included hatsune_miku in my above search.
You are using the tag inappropriately. Stop removing it.
Damian0358 wrote the current version of the worldwide_miku wiki you're using to argue against the pool. Considering he has been involved in discussions about this tag from the beginning (topic #28605), I assume he knows how it should be used.
Even before Damian0358's additions to the wiki, it specifically mentioned the Twitter trend. Its use was never intended for just any foreign version of Miku. If you think the tag should be expanded to include them, then that's fine, but there needs to be an actual discussion about it first.
Blank_User said:
Its use was never intended for just any foreign version of Miku.
Damian0358 said:
This is like tagging Jack-O' Challenge on top-down bottom-up posts which just vaguely resemble the challenge the tag is about!
What "vaguely resemble" are you talking about? The content is the same; your only distinction is whether it was uploaded after a particular date.
RaisingK said:
What "vaguely resemble" are you talking about? The content is the same; your only distinction is whether it was uploaded after a particular date.
Yes, because that's how everyone defines it. We don't tag meme/trend tags on art from before that thing happened just because it vaguely resembles what that is about (whether it be in topic or in actual visuals). Even artists who reposted their previous Miku art that fit with the meme trend emphasized that they were just reposting their old art (post #8055205 as an example), and if they were planning on drawing something new they'd mention that too. They wouldn't do that if the distinction didn't matter as you claim.
And since we're bringing up topic #28605, even there Brazilian Miku is noted as the start of all this. Something like post #1000714, Hatsune Miku (Americana) from 2011, which was submitted to Piapro and even saw official use, doesn't fit the spirit of the meme trend that emerged out from Brazilian Miku. Something like Jokanhiyou's World Cup Mikus also don't fit in the same spirit either. post #7619686 and post #7801767 is Miku Expo fanart.
I don’t want to make a BUR for this just yet, but I’m wondering about the utility of pool #24329. Would people find use in having all of the 4-star art in its own pool? Do we really need to separate them by rarities? On the other hand, if we put everything in the same pool, would it then be superfluous since they can easily be found by searching the copyright and the game_cg tag? Should we just nuke it?
We could also use a pool to order each image by their in-game ID numbers, but that might also not be enough to justify a pool.
BUR #36246 has been rejected.
mass update pool:1229 -> misleading_thumbnail
nuke pool:1229
This should be simple enough, I think. Switching to singular for the tag name. Guess it did exist as this tag previously but got switched because……….???
Ylimegirl said:
BUR #36246 has been rejected.
mass update pool:1229 -> misleading_thumbnail
nuke pool:1229This should be simple enough, I think. Switching to singular for the tag name. Guess it did exist as this tag previously but got switched because……….???
Aren’t pools typically used for subjective concepts?
Ylimegirl said:
BUR #36246 has been rejected.
mass update pool:1229 -> misleading_thumbnail
nuke pool:1229This should be simple enough, I think. Switching to singular for the tag name. Guess it did exist as this tag previously but got switched because……….???
I would not trust this as a tag for a single millisecond. Every so often I purge a few posts from it because either I can't for the life of me figure out what was misleading about it no matter how much I squint or turn my head, or it was added because some random user said, "Thought this looked like [thing it looks nothing like even from the thumbnail] for a second."
There are a lot of really good examples of genuinely misleading thumbnails, but it's yet another pool random people stick things in for no reason because someone thought, "I misinterpreted the thumbnail for half a second so it belongs in Misleading Thumbnails."
I think if you potentially have to explain why something is in a pool because not everyone is going to see what you saw, it probably won't work as a tag.
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Ylimegirl said:
BUR #36246 has been rejected.
mass update pool:1229 -> misleading_thumbnail
nuke pool:1229This should be simple enough, I think. Switching to singular for the tag name. Guess it did exist as this tag previously but got switched because……….???
If the BUR is not a straight nuke but rather an attempt to convert a pool into a tag, it should be done in a separate topic. This megathread is bad for prolonged discussions and an established pool like Misleading Thumbnail should absolutely get its own topic for such a discussion about whether it should continue to remain or if it could work as a tag.
The bulk update request #36246 (forum #333576) has been rejected by @Ylimegirl.