The bulk update request #26983 (forum #283583) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
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The bulk update request #26983 (forum #283583) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
WeakestResUser said:
BUR #26983 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
rename entropy_(honkai_impact_3rd) -> entropy_(honkai_impact)
Quick fix for the qualifier for consistency. Technically the qualifier on all Honkai Impact 3rd tags should be (honkai_impact_3rd) though, so on one hand sort of a meh even though I'm pitching it myself.
There's also zombie_(honkai_impact_3), does it need to be fixed?
The bulk update request #27321 (forum #284777) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The bulk update request #27194 (forum #284301) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The bulk update request #26387 (forum #281153) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
BUR #28504 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
rename raiden_mei_(orochi_cuirass)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(orochi_cuirass)
rename raiden_mei_(aeterna_purum)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(aeterna_purum)
rename raiden_mei_(soul_symphony)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(soul_symphony)
rename raiden_mei_(crooning_tides)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(crooning_tides)
rename raiden_mei_(rainy_springtide)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(rainy_springtide)
rename raiden_mei_(haunted_dusk)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(haunted_dusk)
rename raiden_mei_(nocturne_ablaze)_(honkai_impact) -> raiden_mei_(nocturne_ablaze)
rename fu_hua_(crane_of_taixuan)_(honkai_impact) -> fu_hua_(crane_of_taixuan)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(nibelungen_traumlied)_(honkai_impact) -> bianka_durandal_ataegina_(nibelungen_traumlied)
rename yae_kasumi_(neon_shade)_(honkai_impact) -> yae_kasumi_(neon_shade)
rename seele_vollerei_(eternal_night's_embrace)_(honkai_impact) -> seele_vollerei_(eternal_night's_embrace)
rename seele_vollerei_(on_fair_clouds)_(honkai_impact) -> seele_vollerei_(on_fair_clouds)
rename kiana_kaslana_(selenic_ripples)_(honkai_impact) -> kiana_kaslana_(selenic_ripples)
rename bronya_zaychik_(outstanding_attitude)_(honkai_impact) -> bronya_zaychik_(outstanding_attitude)
rename bronya_zaychik_(heart_of_the_night)_(honkai_impact) -> bronya_zaychik_(heart_of_the_night)
Some tags that I noticed had extra qualifiers when the parent didn't. I haven't checked for missing implications but someone should submit what's left.
The bulk update request #28504 (forum #292781) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
BUR #28505 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
rename elysia_(miss_summer_elf)_(honkai_impact) -> elysia_(summer_miss_elf)_(honkai_impact)
BUR #27194 was a mistake.
The bulk update request #28505 (forum #292784) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
nonamethanks said:
These BURs are a mess to approve because they often end up creating deeply nested tag relationships, which we want to avoid unless it's strictly unavoidable. Whenever I look at HI3 tags I end up in a rabbit hole that takes away hours of my time because there's always something else to fix, so they're typically at the bottom of my priority list.
The issue with this though is that if I end up properly fixing the tags here, you're going to throw a fit anyway. The tag relationships are currently correct when they're describing alternate forms of another character (for example, as to why theresa_apocalypse_(lunar_vow:_crimson_love) is three-times nested when not including outfits) but even to Honkai players those get rabbit hole-y because of "lore shenanigans".
nonamethanks said:
Another thing: some tags have extra qualifiers that are not needed. bianka_durandal_ataegina_(nibelungen_traumlied)_(honkai_impact) should not have the honkai impact qualifier, because the parent tag doesn't have it and is not ambiguous with anything. These tags are already ridiculously long, they don't need to be longer.
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nonamethanks said:
Added rename eden_(flowing_rhyme) -> eden_(flowing_rhyme)_(honkai_impact)
You guys should really be more consistent with qualifiers and align them to their umbrella tags.
I literally asked this earlier unless I misinterpreted: forum #281315. Even then, it's not like I don't disagree; this giant name itself is pointless because no one ever calls her that, it's just her full name. A better tag would be "Durandal (Honkai Impact)" because that's what everyone refers to her as both in-game and out of game anyway. No idea who messed up the tags in the first place, and I'm trying to fix them. These are also old BURs.
nonamethanks said:
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This is another reason why these topics are low priority. Whenever I see an implication and go to figure out what it's for I have to read some regurgitated lore dump that sounds like schizo ravings to anyone who's never touched the game.
I don't know what you want then if you need proof or otherwise that these are valid BURs. Here's another phrasing if you need me to ELI5 you through this: Perception is a dual persona of Ajita.
I don't mind breaking these massive BURs into small individual BURs per thing if it miffs you this bad, and then we can go from there, as long as you're then okay with approving a lot of single-BURs coming out of this topic but they become easier to manage. I can sit down for an evening and fix all the HI3 tags per your complaints/otherwise and as we go so that they become more palatable.
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BUR #28513 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create alias zombie_(honkai_impact_3) -> zombie_(honkai_impact)
Yes it does need to be fixed, did not see this tag existed.
WeakestResUser said:
I literally asked this earlier unless I misinterpreted: forum #281315. Even then, it's not like I don't disagree; this giant name itself is pointless because no one ever calls her that, it's just her full name. A better tag would be "Durandal (Honkai Impact)" because that's what everyone refers to her as both in-game and out of game anyway. No idea who messed up the tags in the first place, and I'm trying to fix them. These are also old BURs.
I wasn't the one who answered. The user was partially right, but wrong in this case. We tend to prefer shorter tag names when possible, by abbreviating qualifiers or removing them outright when the tag is not ambiguous, because from a web design perspective long tags look horrible when they wrap into a new line, even more so when there's several tiers of nesting such as this case with costumes of skins. If you want an example, look at the sidebar for post #7663428.
I don't know what you want then if you need proof or otherwise that these are valid BURs. Here's another phrasing if you need me to ELI5 you through this: Perception is a dual persona of Ajita.
I don't mind breaking these massive BURs into small individual BURs per thing if it miffs you this bad, and then we can go from there, as long as you're then okay with approving a lot of single-BURs coming out of this topic but they become easier to manage. I can sit down for an evening and fix all the HI3 tags per your complaints/otherwise and as we go so that they become more palatable.
Yes, make smaller BURs, and don't try to mix different things together. And try to avoid explanations entirely based on in-game mechanics. I shouldn't have to play the game to be able to figure out that you're trying to tell me that some random anime girl is a clone or alternate skin of another random anime girl.
Five small BURs each focusing on a single character have a far higher chance at being approved than a single larger one combining all of them, because having to check two lines is different than having to check ten lines for errors, and I have to check a BUR in its entirety when I approve it to avoid people sneaking in more lines while I'm looking away.
For the description:
Compare what you wrote then:
Perception is stated to be "1/5" of Ajita. Perception as a fragment or alternate form of Ajita has a significant enough story and material presence alongside Songque and the rest of the cast to become a subordinate character tag. Perception can, for example, be seen with Songque in post #7596910 whereas Ajita herself as a whole is the leftmost shadowed figure in post #7241949.
To what you wrote now:
Perception is a dual persona of Ajita.
Which do you think is more understandable when I'm going through 20 different BURs from 20 different copyrights and have to make sure each and every single line in every single one of them is correct? The first line is a waste of time for me and you both. For you because you have to type a description that makes no sense to anyone who hasn't played the game, and to me because I have to parse it and take away time from every other forum topic in the site that is waiting for an admin.
BUR #28515 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
rename vill-v_(i'm_the_storm)_(honkai_impact) -> vill-v_(i'm_the_storm)
Dequalifying per forum #292781.
WeakestResUser said:
BUR #26474 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create implication perception_(honkai_impact) -> ajita_(honkai_impact)
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Updated BUR reason, hope to retry this.
WeakestResUser said:
BUR #27042 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
remove implication ai-chan_(chrono_navi)_(honkai_impact) -> ai-chan_(honkai_impact)
rename ai_hyperion_lamdba_(honkai_impact) -> ai_hyperion_lambda
rename ai-chan_(chrono_navi)_(honkai_impact) -> ai_hyperion_lambda_(chrono_navi)
create implication ai_hyperion_lambda_(chrono_navi) -> ai_hyperion_lambdaNot the same character and fixing a spelling mistake.
Updated this BUR reason as well.
EDIT: Shit, forgot to dequalify unambiguous tag.
Updated
The bulk update request #28515 (forum #292866) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The bulk update request #26474 (forum #281496) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
WeakestResUser said:
BUR #27042 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
remove implication ai-chan_(chrono_navi)_(honkai_impact) -> ai-chan_(honkai_impact)
rename ai_hyperion_lamdba_(honkai_impact) -> ai_hyperion_lambda
rename ai-chan_(chrono_navi)_(honkai_impact) -> ai_hyperion_lambda_(chrono_navi)
create implication ai_hyperion_lambda_(chrono_navi) -> ai_hyperion_lambdaNot the same character and fixing a spelling mistake.
Looking at the wiki she has multiple skins, and "chrono navi" seems to be one of them. Why is it being aliased here?