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Standardizing Dungeons & Dragons qualifiers

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A few things jumping out at me here:

  • These dragon tags look like they're only being used for one person's OCs. I think they should be gentags with no qualifier + dragon girl.
  • I think the characters from Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom and it's sequel should have a different qualifier since they're only relevant to the Capcom arcade games and not the broader series. Maybe an umbrella tag for the two if they're direct sequels? Chronicles of Mystara seems to be what they call the re-released compilation of both games.
  • Why is landsknecht_(d&d) a tag? It needs to be justified in the wiki. Is it just an OC parody of real life Landsknecht? If so, it should have the artist's name as qualifier, not _(d&d)
  • monk_(d&d) and barbarian_(d&d) don't exist, why are they here?

gfz said:

A few things jumping out at me here:

Monk and Barbarian were both tagged on one image due to the commentary, but in all the stereotypes of D&D official art classes, it didn’t look like either. It was just a nude bara dude. Doesn’t even look like Goliath. The D&D classes shouldn’t be gentags at all. There’s no standard appearance in any video game or edition. And if there were, we’d probably tag that specific outfit as a chartag that we’d have to wrestle with every so often to purge canon tagging, much like Final Fantasy class tags. Landsknecht isn’t even a class or character in D&D, so I’m guessing it’s a case of someone overtagging.

On that note, Goliath probably doesn’t need to be a tag. It’s mostly one character who is just a big grey dude. The grey skin is the only tell of the race in modern D&D. The other characters tagged with the race just look like regular people. They’re not even particularly big or muscular.

Goliath’s defining feature is grey skin. That’s it. And half the tag doesn’t even have that.

gfz said:

A few things jumping out at me here:

  • These dragon tags look like they're only being used for one person's OCs. I think they should be gentags with no qualifier + dragon girl.

Those personifications do incorporate the specific canon details from 3.5e Draconomicon, so they are undoubtably D&D dragons. I don’t think they should be qualifier-less as a result, lest someone try to go through and tag all of Rayquaza as green dragon.

Veraducks said:

Those personifications do incorporate the specific canon details from 3.5e Draconomicon, so they are undoubtably D&D dragons. I don’t think they should be qualifier-less as a result, lest someone try to go through and tag all of Rayquaza as green dragon.

Which ones? I'm not saying you're wrong but I don't see it.
Excepting a few actual dragons like the first two posts in red dragon, these just look like somebody's dragon girl OCs. I think those OCs should be tagged red_dragon_(barbariabank) and so on.

Ignoring the OC dragon girls, I don't see a case for a generic D&D dragon color tags. D&D dragons don't have anything visually distinct enough to warrant their own tags. Compare post #7725181 and post #7307727 (D&D) to post #7728207 or post #7700936 (dragon + red_scales). I think dragon + dungeons & dragons is enough to search for D&D-specific works.

I guess it'sa case where I've read the Draconomicon and can cite it from memory, but yes they all follow specific design elements from that book. Their wing shape, coloration, horn size and shape, and even scale pattern.

Which may be the issue! Draconomicon was a 3.5e book. IE, it's over two decades old in a franchise that's actively rebooting itself for the third time since then. Goliaths used to have rocky warts as their defining feature, not grey skin! Dragons from dnd just don't look the same and 4e/5e/5.5e have played a lot more fast and loose with standard traits and appearances.

All this to say: you've helped me convince myself that you're right.

Removed the unnecessary tags and Chronicles of Mystara characters, who are now being addressed in topic #27752.

gfz said:

They're OC names, that's how the artist refers to them. Commentary in post #3177693, post #2122731, post #2550735 for example, but it's pretty consistent across most of the posts.

Right, but as I interpret it they don't seem to be proper nouns, they're being treated as personifications of D&D dragons with no unique names. I'd rather the tag name reflected the personification, but it's not a big deal either way.

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