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Donmai

How about deleting some Touhou?

Posted under General

A limit would be good. perhaps the slot system could be used again, with something like 8 to 10 that you can send back at a time. If it's 10 and considering we have a limited group of Janitors+, I don't think the added images will cause too much of a hassle. I hardly think every mod, janitor and admin will start using this.

albert said:
I would think flagging could be removed if this system were implemented.

No, it serves a completely different use case. Flagging means "I really believe this post should go, pronto". Unapproving means "I don't think this was a good use of contributor privileges, so I'd like it to be reviewed in the queue". The latter should thus be available to people who have approval powers already, with pool #713 serving as the public interface for the rest of users.

Sorry to bump this after so long. I just came across this thread by accident, saw that there were some numbers and statistics involved, and felt compelled to comment (just finished playing that DS math game)

I thought I'd compare Touhou with another popular copyright, Evangelion, in order to see if Touhou is indeed more likely to get approved (all the numbers were rounded-up)

Touhou:87220 posts, 1350 deleted (1.5%)

Evangelion:5040 posts, 290 deleted (5.8%)

It might seem that there's significant bias in favor of Touhou, but jxh2154 mentioned before that about 86% of all Touhou posts are safe, compared to 59% total, and that there's bias towards explicit images in general, which is why more Touhou is approved. Even so:

Touhou: 75080 safe posts, 880 deleted (1.2%)

Evangelion: 3200 safe posts, 80 deleted (2.5%)

The 1.3% difference might seem small, but it represents about 1000 safe Touhou posts, which is already more than most copyrights have. As for explicit posts, the difference is just too big:

Touhou: 3900 explicit posts, 210 deleted (5.3%)

Evangelion: 770 explicit posts, 130 deleted (16%)

It's kinda hard to believe that all Japanese artists suddenly got good at drawing frills and hats and forgot how to draw plugsuits. Either way, I'm not really trying to make an argument here, I don't care if some Touhou or whatever copyright gets deleted, I just did the math out of curiosity, and thought I'd post it anyways in case it might be somehow useful or provide some info regarding how you guys in charge will handle approvals, unnapprovals, quality, etch.

Sorry if I made a mistake somewhere, sorry for the wall of text, and once again sorry for bumping this after so long.

Fred1515 said:
Sorry if I made a mistake somewhere

You almost certainly did. Unless you work out all the confidence levels, propose a reasonable null hypothesis, then properly reject it, all the numbers don't mean jack; and even if you do it's only up to the confidence level, assuming you didn't make a systematic error somewhere, which is very likely with non-repeatable data like this. Statistics is *hard*.

Even if there was a valid statistical difference I don't see how it'd be relevant. If we were statistically biased towards thighhighs when compared to striped_panties would that mean we should delete thighhighs posts intentionally to restore some sort of perceived balance? Some things are going to be more popular than others, and it's not really practical or necessary to try to correct for that.

I think the whole point is "Touhou pics should be judged according to the same standards of quality as every other image on Danbooru", which I agree with fully.

However, that is pretty much what I see going on already. When it isn't, I make use of the unapproval function.

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