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Girls' Frontline 2 character names for returning GFL1 characters

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Should we start using new character tags for GFL1 characters, that appear in GFL2 artworks?

In GFL2 playable characters now have names instead of their gun names (Groza instead of OTs-14, Sabrina instead of SPAS-12, Machiato (dunno how to write this silly name correctly) instead WA2000, Tololo instead of AK-Alfa, and Centaureissi (name also used in Neural Cloud)) instead of G36)

Most of them are visually distinct from their GFL1/Neural Cloud counterparts, so it's logical to me, that they deserve their own tags, like "Centaureissi_(girls'_frontline_2)" or "Sabrina_(girls'_frontline_2)". I don't think that we need to wait for EN servers launch to confirm their names.

If it's too much of a stretch, at least it's worth to ask.

Kommandant said:

The difference between them in GF1 and GF2 is their clothes. Otherwise they look visually identical

Then we might as well deprecate skin and mod3 tags. The only difference visually are clothes.
And I wouldn't call GFL1 Nagant and GFL2 Nagant visually identical.

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I think it's going to be awkward to implement regardless of whether we do it now or after EN launch, because tagging-wise one could argue there's going to be awkward ambiguities arising. Putting aside the defaults they have in GFL2, as well as the shared clothing options which exist in that game, they recently added legacy skins from the OG, OTs-14's Sangria Succulent and Type 95's Narcissus.

If this ends up continuing as a thing, how would you tag a GFL2 Groza post that features the skin? Girls' Frontline 2: Exilium, OTs-14 (Girls' Frontline), OTs-14 (Sangria Succulent) (Girls' Frontline) and Groza (Girls' Frontline 2)? But how would you know that it is explicitly fanart of her wearing that in GFL2? The art in the new game is different and could serve as inspiration, but in fanart it could be an absolute toss-up unless the artist tags it as GFL2. Should posts in Groza (Girls' Frontline 2) not be used for tagging legacy skins just to avoid the headache, and stick with GFL2-exclusive stuff?

A lot to deliberate on, and stuff isn't even in English yet.

Damian0358 said:

I think it's going to be awkward to implement regardless of whether we do it now or after EN launch, because tagging-wise one could argue there's going to be awkward ambiguities arising. Putting aside the defaults they have in GFL2, as well as the shared clothing options which exist in that game, they recently added legacy skins from the OG, OTs-14's Sangria Succulent and Type 95's Narcissus.

The easiest way of tagging in these theoretical occasions - tag it when appropriate i.e. if there's Exilium tag in the twitter/pixiv tags or description states that it's the GF2 rendition - then also tag it as Girls' Frontline 2 artwork.
It's really difficult, when artist don't tag their works properly, making people play Sherlock.

Seems like I'm the obly one who somewhat cares about this sort of thing.
Just seems logical to me, that the girls' renditions in Exilium should receive their own tags, because they are visually different (not including being expanded as characters and occasionally slightly rewritten, their connection to guns have been blurred due to weapon imprint being broadened by letting them use any weapon of same weapon class).
The artworks with legacy skins should not be tagges with Exilium tags, if there are no relevant tags/info in original twitter/pixiv post. That's just what I think.

Bougaiteuil said:

If they're visually distinct, there's precedent from other copyrights for making separate character tags for them.

Visually they are different from their GFL1 renditions. The difficulties are with the Legacy skins (skins brought from GFL1 into GFL2 with minimal changes).

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