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":d" should imply open_mouth

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Mayhem-Chan

BUR #16317 has been rejected.

create implication :d -> open_mouth

can't think of possible exceptions, is there a reason it wasnt already implied?

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I thought this was the case already. Just fixed a few of my uploads that were missing open_mouth because I thought I'd added it via :d.

Looking through a couple pages of :d -open_mouth, I don't see any I wouldn't tag with open mouth.

I have a feeling this implication used to exist. This is backed up by 90%+ of the above search being posts around a year or less old, and looking at a few of the older ones, they have had :d added within the last year and a half. So I guess there would have been some reason for the implication to be removed...

Edit: Found previous topic #19408 (and topic #18070). Looks like grin was the reasoning. The oldest :d -open_mouth post #356 actually exemplifies that.

It does make sense that we can't stop people tagging grins as :d (though I would not have done so) but there do appear to be a very large number of missing open mouth tags caused by the lack of implication.

I think I would personally prefer the implications come back and treat :D and grin as exclusive, but if not, at least some wikis are out of date. (Just tweaked :D and ;D wikis.)

Although I wouldn't tag a grin as open mouth, the smile wiki actually describes grin as having mouth open. The net tagging error in practice would be less from having grins tagged as open mouth than from having open-mouthed :D untagged as open mouth.

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Mayhem-Chan

Makes sense now that i read those previous topics

However:

And even then, you could argue, that the grin depicted in the examples is an open Mouth by how far the lips are apart. (Which I wouldn't say, given the Wiki, but you could argue for it.)

I tend to agree with this, or alternatively treating :D as exclusive to grin

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Kuchc Sorrin

Yeah grin is already this specific situation by definition. (or by use at least)

Maybe the issue is still having emoticons tags? While we could for sure replace most of them with well chosen terms? (while keeping implications from emotes of course)
But what's always bothering me is the difficulty of finding a tag in a long list even if it's in alphabetical order.

Damn this is our final boss https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6217732?q=parted_lips+%3AD Is it a smile? Is it a grin? Is it a bird? (Okay I guess it's just mistagged?)

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Mayhem-Chan

nonamethanks said:

These implications are pointless if nobody is going to actually fix the thousands of mistags. Saying that :D should not be used for parted lips does not actually stop anyone from using it that way, and :d parted_lips solo currently has 1.1k results.

okay, so if it was only a matter of cleaning :d parted_lips solo , or just the ;d/d:/d; equivalents of that search individually, i'd actually do it even if chipping at it progressively, but looking at the results in that first search, seems like it's not just the smiley tags that are being confused, every single tag mentioned in the thread has the same issue to at least an extent and i dont have any solution to all that, so RIP

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TAKAMAN

Mayhem-Chan said:

BUR #16317 has been rejected.

create implication :d -> open_mouth

can't think of possible exceptions, is there a reason it wasnt already implied?

The is just to denote the shape of ":D", an inanimate object could be making an expression that looks similar to this but doesn't literally have it's mouth open.

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