Reworking the rating system

Jigsy said:

• rating:questionable - Softcore erotica. Simple nudity or near-nudity, but no explicit sex or exposed genitals.
• rating:explicit - Hardcore erotica. Explicit sex acts, exposed genitals, and bodily fluids.

Wouldn't nudity imply exposed genitals?

post #5239598 for example.

Someone can be nude without visible genitalia. post #5368990

blindVigil said:

Someone can be nude without visible genitalia. post #5368990

I know. But I'm genuinely confused if things like showering now classifies as explicit because the character's pussy is visible.

Jigsy said:

That was from the howto:rate page.

Ctrl+F has failed me… Nvm.

kittey said:

The updated howto:rate disagrees:

Surely nosebleeds and chibi getting beaten up fall under cartoon violence, otherwise post #2793581 would fall under s.

I'm more confused about things like bruises or scenes of battle. Is post #3280277 g or s? That's absolutely safe for work even IRL.

nonamethanks said:

Surely nosebleeds and chibi getting beaten up fall under cartoon violence, otherwise post #2793581 would fall under s.

Fully agree, however…

nonamethanks said:

"Violence" only counts as s if it's borderline guro or obvious non-safe for work violence. Think "severed head" or "pile of corpses", […]

Borderline guro, "severed head" and "pile of corpses" won’t count as s under the new rules, I believe.

Ah, I worded it badly then. I meant to define violence in that post, not to define what goes under rating:s. I'll edit the post.

It is really necessary to go though all our uploads and reclass it with the new system? Can't we leave the old uploads as they are and only focus on new uploads?

evazion said:

Safebooru will be rebranded to https://www.donmai.moe. This is to avoid confusion with https://safebooru.org, and to make the site safer to share by putting it on a separate domain (for example, to avoid people going to https://donmai.us instead of https://safebooru.donmai.us and being redirected to Danbooru).

Is there a way to inform us through e-mail when the Safebooru rebrand be done? I doubt Dmails will work during the process.

RIGperu said:

I am not gonna go thit is really necessary to go though all our uploads and reclass it with the new system? Can't we leave the old uploads as they are and only focus on new uploads?

The bar for changing to rating:g is high anyway, you should at least change is:sfw -rating:g ~no_humans ~scenery ~still_life -breasts -1girl -1boy -1other -multiple_girls -multiple_boys -multiple_others, there probably just a few of them from your uploads waiting to be changed, that shouldn't take long.

sammyG said:

Is there a way to inform us through e-mail when the Safebooru rebrand be done? I doubt Dmails will work during the process.

https://donmai.moe/ is already up and running. Feel free to use it, I guess.

kittey said:

https://donmai.moe/ is already up and running. Feel free to use it, I guess.

It still shows rating:s though, so it's not complete.

nonamethanks said:

Surely nosebleeds and chibi getting beaten up fall under cartoon violence, otherwise post #2793581 would fall under s.

I'm more confused about things like bruises or scenes of battle. Is post #3280277 g or s? That's absolutely safe for work even IRL.

I'd rate both those G. The main thing is that guro and really graphic violence shouldn't go under G. Where to draw the line is up for debate.

I am extremely happy with the new system, I have only one minor question, what rating do bunnysuits in general fall under, sensitive?
I mean, maybe and only maybe there are some posts where the bunnysuits are 100% SFW, but in general... I don't know, I have my doubts.

Bunnysuits should generally be sensitive, not general.

evazion said:

I'd rate both those G. The main thing is that guro and really graphic violence shouldn't go under G. Where to draw the line is up for debate.

Yeah that makes sense, but calling it just violence is begging for people to be pedantic about it. Imo it should be clarified so that we don't have someone go on a spree moving all kind of vaguely defined violence like slaps and chibi punches as s, because you just know it's going to happen.

I really wish i wasn't asking this question.
Where does yukkuri abuse fall? I feel it's too cartoonesque to be Q or E, but...

Going through my own uploads to implement the new rating. Does zettai_ryouiki count as G or S (specifically post #3807335)?

Jigsy said:

But I'm genuinely confused if things like showering now classifies as explicit because the character's pussy is visible.

I should hope not. Lumping any and all genital nudity into the same category as hardcore porn is frankly insane. DeviantArt has a fairly detailed policy describing what is and isn't porn re. exposed genitals, and I don't see why we can't have the same.

If we had a rule to rate images with bodily fluids, spread vulvas, erect penises, sexual contact, close-up shots, etc. as Explicit, but which also leaves Questionable open to non-pornographic nudity like post #1124546, that would make a lot more sense than any blanket "all exposed genitals are Explicit" rule.

EDIT: clarity

Jigsy said:

I know. But I'm genuinely confused if things like showering now classifies as explicit because the character's pussy is visible.

Well that's not what you asked, you asked if nudity implied exposed genitals, which it doesn't. Imo your example is E, and always should've been E. That doesn't look like a "subtle" pussy to me.

Where would we place canonical character designs that say feature midriffs and bare shoulders (e.g. Nadia la Arwall, or Yuffie Kisaragi)? I'm guessing S since their outfit tops show almost as much skin as a two-piece swimsuit top despite being outerwear? (even though the former was featured in public broadcasting aimed towards children).