[Fate] Catch-all tags for Lancelot & Medusa

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create implication berserker_(fate/zero) -> lancelot_(fate)_(all)
create implication lancelot_(fate/zero) -> lancelot_(fate)_(all)
create implication lancelot_(fate/grand_order) -> lancelot_(fate)_(all)
create implication rider -> medusa_(fate)_(all)
create implication medusa_(lancer)_(fate) -> medusa_(fate)_(all)
create implication gorgon_(fate) -> medusa_(fate)_(all)
create implication medusa_(lancer_alter)_(fate) -> medusa_(fate)_(all)

Frankly, I'm surprised that these two prolific Servants with multiple variants still haven't received catch-all tags (not to mention Cú Chulainn was already remarkably late to receive his own). I'll throw in a casual reminder that Medb, a character with fewer than 800 posts, received one with her summer alt, which barely has any representation at all to begin with. Another example is Ishtar, though I will say she's not nearly as egregious as Medb.

For the reasons described above, I have made this request to add catch-all tags for both Lancelot and Medusa.

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I think the main reason they weren't made is because of spoilers, but I don't really care too much.

F/Zero Berserker is definitely a spoiler, and the FGO excuse doesn't qualify for him because his FGO appearance is a separate Saber variant. Rider/Medusa I'm actually not sure if anyone actually considers a spoiler at this point, but she appears in FGO so everyone should know who she is by now.

I don't have any issue with Medusa implications, but I wouldn't agree with F/Zero Berserker unless he makes a proper appearance in FGO.

Edit: Scratch that, he's in FGO too, I just overlooked him, so it probably doesn't matter as much.

I'd say to wait for a moment on the decision, i'm currently working on a Great Fate Character Retagging Project mk2 project (for reference, the original is topic #13728, where apparently a lot of people including admins were against a Medusa_(all) tagging because of spoilers?), to decide what to do for tags.
I'm currently busy with irl stuff, but by the end of the month i should be able to make the forum topic.
Also see: topic #14691

-1. The spoiler debate hasn't been resolved yet.

A forum topic should definitely be made, to decide once and for all the fate (heh) of Fate/* tags.

I don't see why something being a spoiler should limit searchability.

iamtakingiteasy said:

I don't see why something being a spoiler should limit searchability.

It wouldn't, true names can be aliased to the "hidden" names

iamtakingiteasy said:

I don't see why something being a spoiler should limit searchability.

Because some people don't like having things spoiled to them, we even have a spoilers tag for that very purpose.

I was originally against it too, but that was 3 years ago. At this point I'm not sure you can learn about Fate without passing through F/GO, so not sure if there's any point in preventing spoilers, especially for Rider since her alternative form is literally called "Gorgon"...

Unbreakable said:

Because some people don't like having things spoiled to them, we even have a spoilers tag for that very purpose.

The problem here is that the tag itself is a spoiler, not the artwork.
I'm personally against spoilery tags, like niyah_(blade), especially if you can't avoid them.

But since fate/* character tagging is a mess, there needs a decision on whether to keep true names hidden or not.

Mysterious_Uploader said:

The problem here is that the tag itself is a spoiler, not the artwork.
I'm personally against spoilery tags, like niyah_(blade), especially if you can't avoid them.

I know, that's what I said.

Unbreakable said:

I know, that's what I said.

Misinterpreted then, sorry

@iamtakingiteasy is actually not wrong though. If you want to see it from an absolutist manner, you can just use true names and call it a day. We're an image database after all.

Caring about hidden names is more of a "user experience" kind of thing. Some people probably use danbooru without/with little fear of being spoiled. Using true names would mean they will probably stop using danbooru/avoid danbooru and other image sites until they finished a game or something. I personally am happy that archer's true name wasn't spoiled for me, despite being a newcomer to the fandom.

I feel like the best thing to do is to hold a site-wide poll, maybe announce it too, and ask people for their opinion on spoilers. A forum post could be made, and score could be tracked like a BUR post, to avoid people botting/using alt accounts to vote.

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