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theproclaimers said:

Playing bass guitar with a bow, while unconventional, is a legit way to play. Plenty of players have used it to great effect and there are many examples on YouTube. Therefore, I don't think the "you're doing it wrong" tag is warranted here.

Even if it's technically viable and used in the real world, the pose and commentary hint more at that it being a you're doing it wrong-esque pardoy of Soyo playing a "normal" bass like in Episode 9 of the anime (asset #23136321). Without this context you'd be correct, but I think it's important in this specific instance.

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    theproclaimers said:

    Playing bass guitar with a bow, while unconventional, is a legit way to play. Plenty of players have used it to great effect and there are many examples on YouTube. Therefore, I don't think the "you're doing it wrong" tag is warranted here.

    While it is indeed an interesting technique that is used on occasion to make unique sounds, it's hardly what the average user would expect would typically would be done so I believe it's inclusion in this pool is acceptable and might even surprise people who have never considered trying that and may prompt them to investigate more.

    Since it's nonconventional it very well may be considered "wrong".

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    ANON_TOKYO said:

    Even if it's technically viable and used in the real world, the pose and commentary hint more at that it being a you're doing it wrong-esque pardoy of Soyo playing a "normal" bass like in Episode 9 of the anime (asset #23136321). Without this context you'd be correct, but I think it's important in this specific instance.

    I admit I haven't watched MyGo so I checked it out quickly. From I what I understand this girl started with double bass and eventually picked up bass guitar? I would understand if the picture was depicting her playing the bass guitar for the first time and somewhat naively trying to apply her double bass technique by using a bow or something. But going by the content of the artwork alone, she is surrounded by a significant amount of gear that no beginner would have. So to me the most logical interpretation is that she must be a relatively advanced player, so her using a bow must be a deliberate musical choice. I would not be surprised if most bass players who started with double bass thought about using a bow to play on the bass at some point. By contrast, other images with the tag usually create comical situations by showing some kind of cluelessness, clumsiness or stupidity but that is clearly not the case here.

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    John_Reality said:

    While it is indeed an interesting technique that is used on occasion to make unique sounds, it's hardly what the average user would expect would typically would be done so I believe it's inclusion in this pool is acceptable and might even surprise people who have never considered trying that and may prompt them to investigate more.

    Since it's nonconventional it very well may be considered "wrong".

    I do agree that this technique is unexpected and surprising, but it is not wrong per se. Bassists like Pete Steel of Lemmy were known to play their bass like a guitar, with a lot of distortion. That is unconventional but no one in their right mind would say they played "wrong". The wiki says that the tag applies to simple actions not done the correct way. Now, whether playing the bass is a simple action is already somewhat questionable, but by this definition she's playing the bass incorrectly. I think that for bass playing, any technique that produces the sound you want or need is correct. Now even if you do not share that opinion, you can just look at other examples in the tag like post #648621 . Here, it's obvious that she's playing incorrectly because we can infer from the picture that if she plays like that she's not going to produce any sound. That is why this picture is humorous and she's effectively "doing it wrong". Such a conclusion however cannot be reached in the present post.

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    theproclaimers said:

    I do agree that this technique is unexpected and surprising, but it is not wrong per se. Bassists like Pete Steel of Lemmy were known to play their bass like a guitar, with a lot of distortion. That is unconventional but no one in their right mind would say they played "wrong". The wiki says that the tag applies to simple actions not done the correct way. Now, whether playing the bass is a simple action is already somewhat questionable, but by this definition she's playing the bass incorrectly. I think that for bass playing, any technique that produces the sound you want or need is correct. Now even if you do not share that opinion, you can just look at other examples in the tag like post #648621 . Here, it's obvious that she's playing incorrectly because we can infer from the picture that if she plays like that she's not going to produce any sound. That is why this picture is humorous and she's effectively "doing it wrong". Such a conclusion however cannot be reached in the present post.

    I suppose ultimately I don't disagree with you entirely but now I'm wondering where the line should be drawn, would prepared guitar or playing a typical guitar like a lap guitar be wrong, then again I suppose if such posts were to be uploaded new tags should be made for them.

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    theproclaimers said:

    I do agree that this technique is unexpected and surprising, but it is not wrong per se. Bassists like Pete Steel of Lemmy were known to play their bass like a guitar, with a lot of distortion. That is unconventional but no one in their right mind would say they played "wrong". The wiki says that the tag applies to simple actions not done the correct way. Now, whether playing the bass is a simple action is already somewhat questionable, but by this definition she's playing the bass incorrectly. I think that for bass playing, any technique that produces the sound you want or need is correct. Now even if you do not share that opinion, you can just look at other examples in the tag like post #648621 . Here, it's obvious that she's playing incorrectly because we can infer from the picture that if she plays like that she's not going to produce any sound. That is why this picture is humorous and she's effectively "doing it wrong". Such a conclusion however cannot be reached in the present post.

    The tag also contains a lot of posts that do give some sort of potentially intended end result, just in an unorthodox fashion (post #8019016, post #7510895, post #8072653).

    Ultimately, this image is clearly trying to evoke "you're doing it wrong" imagery based on pose, commentary and what we know of the character, excluding it because people have intentionally done this and gotten their intended result before wouldn't be useful. Also note that the tag's wiki doesn't specifically say the action must fail in every manner, just that it's wrong/unexpected.

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    FRien said:

    From a foreigner perspective, that one kinda makes sense. If something you love is destroyed, rebuild it, but stronger.

    It wasn't something loved, it was just a pair of towers. What made it so important was the devastation and casualties. Rebuilding the towers would have meant building on top of thousands of graves, would have meant building over all the memorials erected for lost loved ones. People involved in the incident that survived are still feeling the effects today. Too many people would feel an attempt to rebuild the towers to be disrespectful both to those that died and to those that survived.

    I know no one outside the US cares about that event, but I would hope at least that much to be understandable.

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    blindVigil said:

    It wasn't something loved, it was just a pair of towers. What made it so important was the devastation and casualties. Rebuilding the towers would have meant building on top of thousands of graves, would have meant building over all the memorials erected for lost loved ones. People involved in the incident that survived are still feeling the effects today. Too many people would feel an attempt to rebuild the towers to be disrespectful both to those that died and to those that survived.

    I know no one outside the US cares about that event, but I would hope at least that much to be understandable.

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    It wasn't something loved, it was just a pair of towers. What made it so important was the devastation and casualties. Rebuilding the towers would have meant building on top of thousands of graves, would have meant building over all the memorials erected for lost loved ones. People involved in the incident that survived are still feeling the effects today. Too many people would feel an attempt to rebuild the towers to be disrespectful both to those that died and to those that survived.

    I know no one outside the US cares about that event, but I would hope at least that much to be understandable.

    It wasn’t loved until it was destroyed.
    Personally I think those cement blocks were the beauty of lower manhattan

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    blindVigil said:

    It wasn't something loved, it was just a pair of towers. What made it so important was the devastation and casualties. Rebuilding the towers would have meant building on top of thousands of graves, would have meant building over all the memorials erected for lost loved ones. People involved in the incident that survived are still feeling the effects today. Too many people would feel an attempt to rebuild the towers to be disrespectful both to those that died and to those that survived.

    Of course people would complain, they always do. But the message I get from the outside is that you CAN hit the US, and it DOES hurt them.
    Also you should know better than to presume knowing how others "outside the US" feel, because when that happened, we were all shocked. Class that day was cancelled and we just talked about the attack for the rest of the day. You don't need to be American to be horrified by such an event.
    I hope the concept of empathy is understandable.

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    FRien said:

    Also you should know better than to presume knowing how others "outside the US" feel, because when that happened, we were all shocked. Class that day was cancelled and we just talked about the attack for the rest of the day. You don't need to be American to be horrified by such an event.

    To be honest, it depends on where are you from. In ex-USSR countries (at least Ukraine and Russia, from personal experience) quite a few people were actually not sad at all. Mostly older folks who grew up during the Cold War. I was a freshman at university at the time and no classes were canceled, our professor just told us what happened and proceeded to lecture.

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    blindVigil said:

    I know no one outside the US cares about that event, but I would hope at least that much to be understandable.

    As much as we like to joke about it, I imagine most people outside of the US can still appreciate the importance of 911, and that is was an attack not only against the US, but West as a whole. Similar to the Trump assassination, if it can happen in the US, it can happen anywhere. Which is why foreign politicians were so quick to condemn it.

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