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Miside character tagging

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In the game, all Mitas are made from an identical prototype, an empty shell resembling a mannequin, then given a human look, different hairstyles, personalities and other characteristics.
I propose to change the current mita_(miside) tag (which is currently used to tag Crazy Mita) to be a "baseline" Mita tag, one that lets you search for all Mitas, and create a new tag for the first Mita we encounter - Crazy Mita (this is her canonical, in-game name in the character list).
All the different Mitas (cool_mita_(miside), sleepy_mita_(miside), creepy_mita_(miside), mila_(miside) to name a few) would imply mita_(miside).
I'd like to know what you think, thanks.

GreyOmega said:

We shouldn't implicate the fairly unique designed Mitas like Creepy Mita or Tiny Mita to a tag intended for Mitas following their baseline appearance.

I both agree and disagree.
Their design is definitely different from the baseline Mita design, but simultaneously they are still Mitas - anyone searching for any and all Mitas would presumably want to see them. I guess you could think of every Mita as a "unique" skin for a character instead of going for the lore reasoning.

BUR #35197 has been approved by @evazion.

create implication cool_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication sleepy_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication mila_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication tiny_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication kind_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication creepy_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication core_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication 2d_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication short-haired_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)
create implication chibi_mita_(miside) -> mita_(miside)

BUR making every Mita imply mita_(miside). If it passes, I will change the mita_(miside) tag's wiki and go through all Miside posts, tagging appropriate ones with a new Crazy Mita tag.

I'm not sure this is truly necessary. An umbrella tag for Mita is effectively an umbrella tag for every character in the game, since Mita is literally the only character in the game besides the player character. This makes it no different than a search for MiSide itself. You can find "every Mita at once" simply by searching for MiSide, you don't need an umbrella tag for that.

evazion said:

I'm not sure this is truly necessary. An umbrella tag for Mita is effectively an umbrella tag for every character in the game, since Mita is literally the only character in the game besides the player character. This makes it no different than a search for MiSide itself. You can find "every Mita at once" simply by searching for MiSide, you don't need an umbrella tag for that.

It really isn't necessary because it's redundant with the copyright tag for the series as you say. Also the implications of characters like Tiny Mita doesn't make sense, because it's the same scenario as Last Order is with Misaka Imouto so lumping her together when she is both visually different and does not wear the standard Mita clothing means it makes no sense to just throw her into the group. Similarly Creepy Mita has a different model from the other Mitas and even has a completely different facial design and different outfit. Core Mita's bio literally says they don't even know if she is a version of Mita, and yet here we are implicating her into a Mita catchall tag.

We also don't even need a universal Mita tag, because all the Mitas have visual differences and a good number of them don't even share the exact same costume. Even then of the ones sharing the same costume what is the point of a universal Mita tag? If you're doing it for cosplay, it'd make more sense to make a tag for the standard Mita outfit and simply retain cosplay tags for people cosplaying specific Mitas featuring their hairstyles and clothing.

As for the statement that "Crazy Mita" is the name as displayed in the character Bio, it's needs to be pointed out that at least for part of the game the character profile for her simply uses "Mita" for the name. If the profile changes to "Crazy Mita" it's something that is unlocked later in the game and is not the default from the start.

"Crazy Mita's" default character profile from a just started game.

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evazion said:

I'm not sure this is truly necessary. An umbrella tag for Mita is effectively an umbrella tag for every character in the game, since Mita is literally the only character in the game besides the player character. This makes it no different than a search for MiSide itself. You can find "every Mita at once" simply by searching for MiSide, you don't need an umbrella tag for that.

My main reason for this was purely so I can search for all Mitas, didn't consider the fact that there's only one other non-Mita character - the player, so searching by the copyright is basically as good. Not sure if BUR's are revertable, I'd be fine with doing that (though I'll admit I like how the implications look, though as mentioned - in this case they're not that useful). If the implications are kept, there should be one for Crazy Mita, I didn't add that one to the list.

GreyOmega said:

It really isn't necessary because it's redundant with the copyright tag for the series as you say. Also the implications of characters like Tiny Mita doesn't make sense, because it's the same scenario as Last Order is with Misaka Imouto so lumping her together when she is both visually different and does not wear the standard Mita clothing means it makes no sense to just throw her into the group. Similarly Creepy Mita has a different model from the other Mitas and even has a completely different facial design and different outfit. Core Mita's bio literally says they don't even know if she is a version of Mita, and yet here we are implicating her into a Mita catchall tag.

We also don't even need a universal Mita tag, because all the Mitas have visual differences and a good number of them don't even share the exact same costume. Even then of the ones sharing the same costume what is the point of a universal Mita tag? If you're doing it for cosplay, it'd make more sense to make a tag for the standard Mita outfit and simply retain cosplay tags for people cosplaying specific Mitas featuring their hairstyles and clothing.

As for the statement that "Crazy Mita" is the name as displayed in the character Bio, it's needs to be pointed out that at least for part of the game the character profile for her simply uses "Mita" for the name. If the profile changes to "Crazy Mita" it's something that is unlocked later in the game and is not the default from the start.

Not sure at which point it changes, but her bio looks like this for me (I've finished the game). Also not sure how the tagging of her should be handled.
I feel like her normal form deserves a separate tag (like Kind, Cool, Sleepy), but the form in my screenshot also seems like it could use a different one?

Note that the character model blinks between the original and the reveal version

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I disagree with the change and I think the umbrella/implication should be reverted. Yes, all Mitas are Mitas but let's play along with how the devs handle Miside's promotional materials. The promotional materials obfuscate the fact that the Mita is Crazy Mita and the fact that there are other Mitas. Although the spoiler is surface level at best since shit hits the fan on chapter 3.

So the course of action I am suggesting right now is:
>Nuke Crazy_Mita_(Miside)
>Edit Mita_(Miside) to include Crazy_Mita_(Miside) details in spoilers
>De-implicate Mita_(Miside) from other Mitas.

Now you can look up Crazy Mita on Danbooru just fine.

GreyOmega said:

As for the statement that "Crazy Mita" is the name as displayed in the character Bio, it's needs to be pointed out that at least for part of the game the character profile for her simply uses "Mita" for the name. If the profile changes to "Crazy Mita" it's something that is unlocked later in the game and is not the default from the start.

Crazy Mita is how all the other characters (mainly the protagonist and kind mita, since those are the primary speaking characters) refers to that specific version in game, after the reveal that she is indeed crazy.

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