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Tag discussion: faux_historical_clothing

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If you're wondering why it's close to 100% Chel, you can check the tag's history and find that it was created seemingly to banish Chel from the Mayan clothes tag, providing an alternative to ensure that the posts weren't made less searchable.

Regardless of that, following the precedent in topic #24073 and topic #25435/topic #26257, this tag would have questionable use - because first of all, as you mentioned, how do you define "faux" in this context? Clearly in Chel's case, the user who made the tag did not think her clothes was accurate enough to Mayan wear of the period to qualify for that tag, so is it modern clothes rendered in a historical style? Because one could definitely imagine that "faux" could include art of people wearing medieval clothes in fantasy settings, and at that point you're losing the plot.

This tag should probably be nuked, and the Chel posts should be moved back to mayan clothes. I feel like it sets a bad precedent when it comes to historical/cultural clothing themes. The fact of the matter is that most images of these clothing styles on this site are not going to be historically accurate - the vast majority of ancient egyptian clothes certainly isn't, for example. Should all of the non-accurate images have ancient egyptian clothes stripped from them and be moved to faux historical clothing?

If this change were extended to all the historical styles, searchability would be ruined - each of the clothing styles would likely have a handful of "accurate" images (however that is defined, which is its own can of worms) lingering in their tags, while the majority of images would be jumbled together in faux historical clothing. Individual styles would be unsearchable, unless we also added tags like faux egyptian clothing, which is kind of ridiculous in my opinion.

This tag sacrifices searchability in favor of a pedantic ideal of historical accuracy that the majority of users won't care about when they're searching on this site.

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BUR #32536 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

deprecate faux_historical_clothing

Damian0358 said:

If you're wondering why it's close to 100% Chel, you can check the tag's history and find that it was created seemingly to banish Chel from the Mayan clothes tag, providing an alternative to ensure that the posts weren't made less searchable.

Yeah, I noticed that. I felt that it was prudent to give the tag a chance to be judged on its merits instead of its origin.

Personally I'm unconvinced that the tag is worth keeping, so I've attached a deprecation BUR (I had to create a wiki page to create the BUR, please correct me if that's not the right thing to do in that situation). I suspect that letting it be used as an additional qualifier tag for various kinds of historical clothing, as GreyOmega suggests, would result in sporadic and inconsistent tagging driven by personal whims. I don't think there'd be much harm in it, though, unless people start fighting over it. If the qualifier ends up being useless, it can be dealt with later.

If the BUR is approved, then I can take care of reverting the Chel posts to mayan clothes, unless someone else does it or there's strong opposition to that. Edit: Done.

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