BUR #10091 has been rejected.
create implication school_bus -> bus
It is a type of bus designed to transport students.
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BUR #10091 has been rejected.
create implication school_bus -> bus
It is a type of bus designed to transport students.
Do we tag bus interior with bus now? If not -1.
bus_interior bus is more than half the bus interior tag.
Would you say that a car stops being a car if you're inside it?
nonamethanks said:
Would you say that a car stops being a car if you're inside it?
I don't know about everyone else, but certainly when I look for a car I'm looking for car the vehicle, not car the front seats (post #3646233), car the backseat (post #3888389), car the door (post #4010089), or car the rear-view mirror (post #3686018 rating:e).
NWF_Renim said:
I don't know about everyone else, but certainly when I look for a car I'm looking for car the vehicle, not car the front seats (post #3646233), car the backseat (post #3888389), car the door (post #4010089), or car the rear-view mirror (post #3686018 rating:e).
Well, the tags are called car and bus, not car exterior and bus exterior. car car_interior has 869 posts, about half of the car interior posts. It's probably a case by case basis but if people have no problem tagging something like post #3015145 or post #2500689 or post #2549277 car...
Previous relevant discussion in topic #13536.
It seems that nobody ever cleaned up the "bus" tag from bus_interior posts after the implication was removed.
You'd think the large amount of posts tagged with both are because of the old implications, but for example car car_interior age:<5y (after the removal of the implication) has 420 posts vs the 1100 of car_interior age:<5y, still slightly less than half.
I don't have an opinion on this implication but if you expect users to care that the interior of a car is not a car and the interior of a bus is not a bus, you're going to have a bad time.
car isn't the best example as there are quite a lot of pictures where the interior of the car is clearly visible from outside the car, or where another car is visible in a car interior post. Either of which would justify both.
This is a lot rarer in the bus case, where slightly under 30% of bus_interior posts in the past 5 years also have the bus tag (and thus the ground_vehicle and motor_vehicle tags too). Of those about 1 in 10 are comics that display the bus and bus interior separately. The number of images in the bus_interior tag in the past 5 years that are wrongly* tagged bus (based on the previous definition) is slightly under 1 in 4.
*based on the previous conclusion
nonamethanks said:
Well, the tags are called car and bus, not car exterior and bus exterior. car car_interior has 869 posts, about half of the car interior posts. It's probably a case by case basis but if people have no problem tagging something like post #3015145 or post #2500689 or post #2549277 car...
I think that#s pretty much expected that one means the exterior.
I mean, we add the addendum of _interior because of exactly that reason.
Provence said:
I think that#s pretty much expected that one means the exterior.
I mean, we add the addendum of _interior because of exactly that reason.
Sure, but it's also intuitive to tag a car as car. I can't see that changing no matter the gardening. Hell it's the first thing I'd do too.
Keep in mind that bringing this to its logical conclusion we would have to remove all implications to car, because you can tell a model from the inside too in a lot of cases. For example police_car car_interior.
nonamethanks said:
Sure, but it's also intuitive to tag a car as car. I can't see that changing no matter the gardening. Hell it's the first thing I'd do too.
Keep in mind that bringing this to its logical conclusion we would have to remove all implications to car, because you can tell a model from the inside too in a lot of cases. For example police_car car_interior.
True, true.
It's sadly not a discussion that would yield a solution regarding to tagging. Just saying it makes some semantic sense at least to keep them seperate.
So in that case, just bite into the sour apple and have the interior tagged with car...or bus, in this case.
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