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BUR #6429 has been approved by @evazion.
create implication shishimai -> lion_dance
The Shishimai is the Japanese form of the East-Asian lion_dance.
Currently, depictions of the Japanese form of the dance are tagged semi-consistently with both shishimai and lion_dance.
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As far as i know lion dance is supposed to be used for the chinese version, but i haven't been able to find many differences between t and the japanese version.
Username_Hidden said:
As far as i know lion dance is supposed to be used for the chinese version, but i haven't been able to find many differences between t and the japanese version.
I initially thought so, but the lion dance wiki seems to imply it's intended as an umbrella tag (though could be an artifact from copying the Wikipedia article), and the tag currently gets double tagged with shishimai on quite a few posts featuring the Japanese version.
As for the actual Chinese lion dance, it is visually distinct compared to the Japanese version (different head and body/robe). And with the popularity of the various Chinese gachas bringing it up for Chinese Lunar Year-themed events, the (Southern) Chinese lion dance also gets depicted in anime-style art far more frequently than it used to (including on Japanese fanart websites). So maybe we can create a separate Chinese lion dance tag and implicate it to lion dance, though I'd leave that for later.
(The Korean and Vietnamese versions [and Tibetan and Indonesian] are also visually distinct, though don't really see much examples of them depicted in anime-style art yet. If any of them pop up we can just use lion dance as an umbrella tag for now.)
nonamethanks said:
What are the differences between the chinese and japanese version? Can you show some posts where there's a distinct difference?
The two tags need their wikis updated with examples, otherwise to anyone that is not an expert in the subject they're basically interachangeable.
The Japanese version (shishimai) has a red lacquered wood noh mask with teeth (same "lion mask" worn by Hata no Kokoro), white hair and a green "robed" body (sometimes with white swirly wind/cloud print patterns). Some also have horns on the mask.
Examples: post #4317223, post #3955114, post #3380216, post #1862923, post #1890882
The (Southern) Chinese version has a fabric mask with distinctive fur-like trim outlining the eyes and mouth, and are usually toothless (teeth may be sewn/painted on the mouth but are not separate unlike the Japanese one). They usually don't have a separate distinct hair or mane, and the body is usually frilled and doesn't have the robe-like look of the Japanese shishimai. Their colors vary quite a bit (unlike the Japanese shishimai which is nearly always the same red + white + green color scheme), but usually feature red, white and yellow, and sometimes black. The Chinese version usually doesn't have horns.
Examples: post #4565516, post #4128851, post #4024780, post #4353890, post #3805167, post #2624089, post #2620242
nonamethanks said:
Ah yeah, I see the difference. imo it's enough to make it uniquely identifiable, so I agree on an implication rather than an alias. You should update the wikis with examples so that anyone searching for which tag to use can quickly figure it out.
Done. Thanks for the suggestion.
Putting the examples of the (Southern) Chinese lion dance in lion dance for now. They can be moved out if a separate Chinese_lion_dance tag is created.
I think a lion_dance_(chinese)/lion_dance_(japanese) utility alias would be helpful.
The bulk update request #6429 (forum #192467) has been approved by @evazion.
