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jxh2154 said:
Please do not start these tags. It has been discussed before a couple times, but we have decided not to use them.
Yeah, age-based tags are WAY too subjective. Hell, I get carded sometimes buying tobacco, and if a cashier in real life can't tell that a 30 year old dude with a full beard is over 18 then there's no way age-based tags on anime images could all be correct.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki/diff?title=straight&commit=Compare&to=7&from=6
Was there any discussion on this, or is memegui just deciding what tags should be used on his own?
Actually it probably did. I looked at the tags for straight and some of the images, and it dawned on me why it probably exists in the first place. It was most likely used in conjunction with the shota tag, thus having straight shota instead yaoi shota (which I believe I heard is the norm for the genre).
Edit: ... but looking at the previous version that you edited over, I see you'd have already known that.
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I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be used, so long as it's clearly defined on when it should and shouldn't be used.
About it being a mistagging, I would say you were right, but there are 325 straight tagged shota images and only 60 straight_shota tagged images. I'd think if it was just accidental the straight_shota tag would be more populated than it currently is. Not that any of this really matters on whether it should be used or not.
Wouldn't straight be a 'default' tag like female? I think someone should do a mass edit "if straight AND shota" then "straight_shota, -straight". I think this wasn't done before because member level users can't edit shota posts. I really don't think there's a need for straight as it's being used now.
In the wiki for huge_breasts:
"Examples:
* post #154918 is huge_breasts.
* post #154842 is not huge_breasts."
I question if post #154918 is really huge_breasts and not just large_breasts, it seems a litle too subjective to serve as an example. Maybe something by inoue_takuya would be a better example of huge_breasts, they're usually bigger than the characters heads like it already says on the wiki.
Though personally, for something as subjective as this, I don't think it should have any examples at all.
I think the examples are important. It serves to lessen the confusion between large_breasts and huge_breasts tags. If anything it gives the person a rough idea on drawing the difference.
As for post #154918 you're probably right that it isn't the best example. Taking a piece of paper and roughly comparing the size of one of her breasts to her head, it looks like a single breast would completely cover her face, but since we're looking at at it from an angle you can't fully tell. I'd tag them huge_breasts, but for an example I think a image where the character is directly facing the viewer would be better. Probably the reason that image was chosen was it was close to the borderline between large and huge, thus helping to draw the line between them. Choosing a very obvious huge_breast image wouldn't help define where the transition between the two tags is.
I must admit though, is it the head in comparison to both breasts or the head in comparison to just one breast that determines if it is huge or not?
I think what's meant is one breast is as big as the head (or bigger obviously). That said, the "bigger than head" thing is just something someone said in a random discussion on whether to change the confusing and ambiguous "bb" to the slightly less confusing and ambiguous "huge_breasts" a while ago. It's an indication, not a law.
The examples are needed because some people tag anything more than flat chest as huge_breasts, and it's easier to just point to the example and say "don't." than to have to explain the whole premise every time.
Does everyone agree with my edit of the wiki of muscle?
Some examples of it applied:
post #308067 and post #231895 get abs.
post #221726 and post #221726 get abs and muscle.
post #299892, post #284425, post #280020 and most of "muscle male" get muscle but not abs.
Do I have the green light to start adding and removing tags?
Isn't name_characters a request to name/tag/add notes to characters that don't have them? (The wiki entry is somewhat unclear about this.) It was re-added to post #316870 and I'm not sure why, I think that picture's been accounted for.
Sorry to bring this up again but, argh, I keep coming back to the wiki for huge_breasts, those examples just don't sit right with me. I don't know, I don't even think post #154918 should be huge_breasts instead of large_breasts, like, at all. Hmm, I think that maybe the guideline for huge_breasts shouldn't be relative, but absolute instead. Like, if a loli or a short or thin girl has big breasts, they shouldn't be classified as huge just because of loli proportions, but in absolute terms instead, if she has a C cup, it gets tagged as large, but if they're bigger than D, only then might it get to be huge. And for fat girls, their breasts should be tagged as huge, as expected of their fat proportions.
Let's look at Patchouli, post #277500 and post #242317 should maybe be large_breasts in spite of her small proportions, while post #302414 would definitely be huge.
Sorry to be so anal about this but I can't see people get clarified with those two examples in that wiki, I still think they should be removed. I realize that the huge_breasts tag gets slightly overused. For many, even a little big warrants the huge tag, It's not unusual that I change posts from huge to large, the are after all twice as many tagged as huge than there are tagged large.
At the same time, I realize that large_breasts, in this realm, may be an overspecification as the limits are hazy, much more than huge_breasts. Is post #323412 large breasts? Maybe in real life, but maybe not so compared to the anime average, look at Code Geass girls. I usually make use of the large_breasts->breasts implication to find them with "breasts -huge_breasts" or simply "breasts".
Well, let's forget this for now, what I really think is that those examples should be removed or be replaced with less ambiguous examples and that the size of breasts should be categorized mostly independent from proportions of the characters.
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