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Sal.N said:
repurposing into a pool for "more than 3 magicians/witches/wizards collaborating in magical research". There's no reason to limit this topic to Touhou.
I think a new pool would be better for that than trying to repurpose this one. Even then, some combination of tags might work in its place.
In any case, +1 for deleting this pool.
Sal.N said:
Danbooru rule: Not being able to search for more than 2 tags is not a reason for making a pool. It's an incentive for making you contribute or pay to get privilleges.
Anyway, this thread has gone on for more than a year and the suggestion had been repeated in Pointless Pools many times. Can a mod or admin finally give a comment, instead of ignoring your contributors like this?
I'm with S1eth, that this pool is nothing more than a combination search. Either it needs a deletion, or repurposing into a pool for "more than 3 magicians/witches/wizards collaborating in magical research". There's no reason to limit this topic to Touhou.
Ah, but that is not the point. The pool is for a gathering of the magicians of Touhou regardless of the combination. Just because a certain combination comes up more than others is not a reason to close or change the pool, nor is it a reason to start a petty edit squabble over.
Zetroic said:
Ah, but that is not the point. The pool is for a gathering of the magicians of Touhou regardless of the combination. Just because a certain combination comes up more than others is not a reason to close or change the pool, nor is it a reason to start a petty edit squabble over.
But every post in the pool has all three of Alice, Marisa and Patchouli in it, so it's not just "more than others". And I don't think it counts as a petty edit squabble when it was discussed ahead of time and agreed upon.
Toks said:
But every post in the pool has all three of Alice, Marisa and Patchouli in it, so it's not just "more than others". And I don't think it counts as a petty edit squabble when it was discussed ahead of time and agreed upon.
It's a petty squabble when any addition gets thrown out when it meets the criteria for seemingly no reason.
Just because those three show up does not mean that that is the only reason for the pool's existence. There are other magicians in Touhou, perhaps it's not too hard to add any combinations of them instead of complaining about how often one group shows up.
Urgh, look, this pool, right now, serves the same function as a normal 3 character search. If you want to propose something different to what this pool currently is, then go assemble those images and either put them in your own pool or sort through this pool and delete the ones that don't match it.
Zetroic said:
It's a petty squabble when any addition gets thrown out when it meets the criteria for seemingly no reason.
That's the problem to begin with, the criteria themselves are what's under contention here. It's no mere edit war when the pool's entire existence is challenged.
Arrei said:
That's the problem to begin with, the criteria themselves are what's under contention here. It's no mere edit war when the pool's entire existence is challenged.
Then until the criteria has been clearly changed there is no point in the edit war.
What this seems to be is a long complaint about how every picture in the pool was just of Marisa, Alice, and Patchouli; which is no longer the case. I have added some pictures that are not of just those three but does meet the current standards. Surely broadening the search for more variety is a more reasonable solution than just destroying a pool when it can be salvaged.
Because I was afraid without some kind of criteria, a magical research pool will be flooded with only certain pairs of characters (whom are known to be drawn together a lot) doing the studying. But now that I look through the first few thousands posts of alice_margatroid kirisame_marisa chartags:<5 and kirisame_marisa patchouli_knowledge chartags:<5, it seems that I worried about a non-issue.
Also I was just thinking that it could very well be a tag instead of a pool. Such as magic_research.
Sal.N said:
Also I was just thinking that it could very well be a tag instead of a pool. Such as magic_research.
I agree, it seems more suited to a tag.
NWF_Renim said:
If this or another pool is going to be about images of magical research, why is it particularly necessary to enforce a specific requirement of 3 or more mage characters in it? Wouldn't the concept of it requiring depictions of magical study not be enough?
That seems reasonable enough as long as we have an agreement on what meets the criteria as well as making it clear in the pool's description so we can avoid something like this again.
NWF_Renim said:
Wasn't sure if it should be a tag, since I felt there can be a degree of subjectivity on saying that is what is going on in the image or not.
I think magic_research is objective enough, and is the kind of tag people won't try to add/remove from images as much as possible, unlike cute/badass/hot tags where subjectivity seems to bring war to just about every other post.
As a pool one can see the most recent updates, while as a tag one wouldn't, so maintaining it would be a bit more difficult.
This is true to any other tags though.
Sal.N said:
This is true to any other tags though.
That of course goes with my concern of subjectivity, I feel that it is a bit more subjective than what should be just a tag so making it a pool with the additional clean up protections is valid. You didn't need to separate it from the rest of my message and respond to it as a whole separate issue, since by arguing that it is indeed objective enough to a be a tag tosses out the needs of additional clean monitoring services.
I'll just leave it that I have my reservations, but if they're unfounded, then so be it. I'd have rather voiced my reservations than leaving it go unvoiced.
NWF_Renim said:
I'll just leave it that I have my reservations, but if they're unfounded, then so be it. I'd have rather voiced my reservations than leaving it go unvoiced.
On-topic reservations and concerns are necessary and welcome in forum discussion so you don't have to explain. Just to be clear, I was also just saying my thought on the matter without taking it too seriously. I apologize if the way I talk seems confronting.
The whole idea of "magic research" evolved from trying to give this pool a purpose, since it currently doesn't have any.
The whole topic of magic research as tag or pool is now completely separate from the original topic of this thread.
Even if we said that magic research should be a pool, we would create a new pool for it and not use pool #5271.
The question is, are people even interested in a magic research tag/pool or are we doing this just because?
Here are some posts that might fit under magic research (though I'm not sure if they're the best examples):
id:1330079,204527,1168897,593563,394168,467021,825924,387620,1052514,1349707,234750,
