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Ratings check thread

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Shinjidude

Everything less questionable than "questionable" is safe. I can't see any good argument for adding a fourth level. In all honesty, two levels should be sufficient if it weren't for the issue of everything defaulting to one or the other.

Part of the problem with staff being unable to reach consensus is the fact that the standards have drifted over time. Howto:rate as it exists right now is a revised version of the second major iteration of the rating rules developed by Hazuki two years ago. In none of the systems so far has safe been "work-safe" though, in part, due to the fact that "work-safe" is an incredibly subjective thing to define, especially with content like Danbooru's.

The initial version of the rules was pretty cut and dry:

if: {genitals, body fluids, or sex} → then explict,
else if: {breasts, pubic hair, strong innuendo} → questionable,
else: safe

It was clean-cut, (almost) completely objective, and very easy to rate uniformly

Hazuki decided a major overhaul was in order to allow us to better separate "porn" from "artistic nude". This lead to today's howto:rate, where as was his intent, would allow for non-sexual nudity in "safe" and a somewhat broader interpretation of questionable to allow somewhat more "tasteful" content to be separated from explicit.

I didn't have any strong objections at the time, but the second system was much more subjective and caused more confusion as to what gets rated as what.

Rating a clothed character (without very strong innuendo) as "questionable" goes beyond either of the two existing rating systems put forward thus far. As I said before, I don't particularly mind too much (though I'd lean towards keeping what we have). If we did want to make a change, a thread should be dedicated to it, and it should be discussed. It should also be noted that the more subjective it is, the less likely it is to be used consistently between members, and the more likely it is people won't agree on how to use it. Also keep in mind (as with the previous revision), old content is very unlikely to be updated to fit the new standards to any great degree, and will very likely remain at odds with the new system.

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kittey said:
One user changed the rating from safe to questionable, so that’s a rather low amount of people. Looks safe to me, though. Changed.

Well, I just thought that if RiderFan has rated the post Q after I set its rating to S, perhaps the original poster left the Q tag there intentionally and, perhaps, there's something wrong with me.

Anyway, thanks.

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