Masturbation and bukkake

Should bukkake count as masturbation? It seems people are tagging it as such (search for example lolita_channel masturbation).

Literally, I suppose it makes sense, since bukkake involves a bunch of guys masturbating and ejaculating on a girl. But it somehow doesn't sit well with me to have those posts tagged as masturbation when often the composition of the image is basically a girl centered with a bunch of disembodied penises around the edges.

What does everyone think? Should I detag these?

I think that it should only be tagged with masturbation if it's happening in the image. If it's just someone covered in cum, then no.

Dogenzaka said:
If it's just someone covered in cum, then no.

Yes, obviously, but in most of these pics there is a penis with a hand on it on the edge of the frame, or something like that.

0xCCBA696 said:
Yes, obviously, but in most of these pics there is a penis with a hand on it on the edge of the frame, or something like that.

If there's a dick in hand, even if it's at the edge of the image, tag masturbation. If it's just a penis, don't.

Well, like I said, that's the literal interpretation, but I really doubt anyone searching for masturbation is looking for a dick in someone's hand at the edge of a picture in which the main focus is a girl in the center covered with semen. In fact, I would expect most people searching for masturbation to actively not be looking for something as "hard" as bukkake, or even really for multi-person sex acts in general. (And in any case, one might say that from the male's point of view, bukkake is more about dominance than self-pleasure, the wiki definition of masturbation, though that's debatable.)

Tagging is supposed to lean towards common sense over literalism - or at least that seemed to be the consensus a year or two ago when I was more active on danbooru - hence my question.

I'd just err on the side of caution. If someone has their dick in their hand, it's more often then not masturbation. That's just how I see it. It's still worth tagging, even if it's only a small part of the picture.

Dogenzaka said:
If someone has their dick in their hand, it's more often then not masturbation.

...not counting all the weirdos who need to hold their dick in hand while taking a pee :)

Anyway, I agree with 0xCCBA696 here. I feel adding extra masturbation tag only because it's bukkake is unnecesary and only generates false positives for searching queries.

Examples of proper bukkake masturbation usage:
post #142856
post #359542
post #429933

richie said:
Examples of proper bukkake masturbation usage:
post #142856

Really unsure about that one being masturbation. It's just (am I really typing this with a straight face?) a girl spreading herself to let the semen out. Not convinced it's self-stimulating, especially with that expression.

Dogenzaka's point s reasonable, but I'd agree with richie and OxC in this case and say that the difference between self-pleasure and bukakke is conceptually different enough, and also visually different enough due to how the image would be composed and the presence of another person, to warrant not necessarily being tagged together.

Thanks. I decided to go ahead and detag as I had originally planned.