pool #3525 - "Tenshi, you little shit."
...Yeah.
This isn't even a character-specific trait so even if it were to be populated it'd just be filled with images where the artist happened to make Tenshi do something mean.
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pool #3525 - "Tenshi, you little shit."
...Yeah.
This isn't even a character-specific trait so even if it were to be populated it'd just be filled with images where the artist happened to make Tenshi do something mean.
pool #3523 - "How Did This Happen in the First Place?"
Speculation Fuel by another name (the only post in the pool actually situated in the Speculation Fuel pool)
pool #3529 - Haunted Vagina
Aside from a few images, the concept of this pool could be looked for with maebari ofuda
pool #3536 "Pokemon Drawn Realistically"
pokemon realistic = pool redundant for the most part. There's only a handful of realistic Pokemon images that contain no actual Pokemon.
Siegmund_200% said:
Wouldn't that add a lot of needless pools? The whole idea seems to really seems to go against danbooru's "less clutter" idea.
What about the rule that pools shouldn't serve as substitutes for tag searches (i.e. 4koma rokugatsu_t)? The artist is using the same generic title for all their 4koma, so that's what it amounts to. Searches are the only useful way to browse the pool index anyway, with or without these additional pools.
At least some of the stories are large enough to stand on their own, and ones without any continuity don't need to be in any pool.
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RaisingK said:
What about the rule that pools shouldn't serve as substitutes for tag searches (i.e. 4koma rokugatsu_t)? The artist is using the same generic title for all their 4koma, so that's what it amounts to. Searches are the only useful way to browse the pool index anyway, with or without these additional pools.
Is that rule actually intended for this situation?
I assumed that rule was really only intended for general tag searches like boots + boobs.
I don't think that even though the name the artist used also happens to be a tag that it would fall under this rule. My way of looking at it anyway.
At least some of the stories are large enough to stand on their own, and ones without any continuity don't need to be in any pool.
Which goes back to a few early points (some were more or less solved but just want to touch on them again):
- Naming would be unrelated to the larger comic name. I don't recall this being used more then very rarely.
- Assuming the remaining comics come out of the "appeal thread" you might have 10 or so stories (no counted but they are all 4-7 pages it seems).
- Child/parent for 4 pages I thought was a huge no-no (related to my interpretation of "standing on their own"). Thus meaning only some would be pooled and the rest would be parent/child).
- Other pooled generic 4koma with "related" (same universe) but non continuous stories (generally seem to be touhou).
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel but this does seem to be a situation that would change the way pools are handled (unless this is in fact quite common).
Note: As to my first point above, the naming issue was solved to a degree with having the artists pool name withing the actually pool description/name I am referring to the use of a different name itself.
Siegmund_200% said:
I don't think that even though the name the artist used also happens to be a tag that it would fall under this rule.
The title is coincidental to my point. What I meant is that that tag search will get you exactly the contents of pool #3499.
Siegmund_200% said:
Naming would be unrelated to the larger comic name.
When the "larger comic name" is as generic as "Touhou 4koma", nothing of value is lost.
Siegmund_200% said:
Other pooled generic 4koma with "related" (same universe) but non continuous stories (generally seem to be touhou).
"Other pools are just as generic" doesn't work here any more than "other posts are just as bad" works as a post appeal reason. If other pools are in the exact same situation, then they can be addressed as well, separately, later.
Siegmund_200% said:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel but this does seem to be a situation that would change the way pools are handled (unless this is in fact quite common).
"Common" may be an overstatement, but splitting separate comics in the same universe into multiple pools is not without precedent -- uni_mate's comics (such as pool #2360) spring to mind. Obviously, there is precedent for lumping as well -- again, Mamange (pool #1368) would seem to be the best-known example.
Siegmund_200% said:
My logic was just to limit the number of pools that would be created in this case
I'm not sure how much more clearly I can ask this -- apart from 'appeal to tradition', what is your rationale for suggesting that the number of pools should be limited? We're not gonna run out. They aren't using up resources. They're well defined. They make navigation simpler. The only real downside is the naming issue, and even in cases where the author's name isn't "Touhou 4koma", this issue is not major enough in and of itself to justify sticking with an otherwise inferior pooling strategy.
The reason that I am dismissive of appeals to tradition here is that there is no real "Danbooru policy" at work in this case; just individuals doing whatever comes to mind. What we are doing now is deciding policy, and as I see it, pooling each story individually is the most sensible choice.
RaisingK said:
The title is coincidental to my point. What I meant is that that tag search will get you exactly the contents of pool #3499.
Yes I realize that. What I was getting at is where the artist's naming scheme and a tag match, does the rule still apply?
Basically is the,
Artist's pool name matching a tag > pooling by the artist's naming scheme regardless of what it is.
"Other pools are just as generic" doesn't work here any more than "other posts are just as bad" works as a post appeal reason. If other pools are in the exact same situation, then they can be addressed as well, separately, later.
Consider it a matter of precedence and/or tradition that could be assumed (even incorrectly) as policy until challenged.
While the "image being as bad" defense has been brought up a myriad of times before and shot down, I think that this is a new (or at least no brought up before) issue regarding pool naming and design.
I think it is different enough that the "as bad image" rules might not apply to it.
glasnost said:
I'm not sure how much more clearly I can ask this -- apart from 'appeal to tradition', what is your rationale for suggesting that the number of pools should be limited? We're not gonna run out. They aren't using up resources. They're well defined. They make navigation simpler.
I think we are both blind in the left eye.
There was no rational (mechanically speaking) beyond making a whole bunch of pools. It just feels counter-intuitive to me.
The reason that I am dismissive of appeals to tradition here is that there is no real "Danbooru policy" at work in this case; just individuals doing whatever comes to mind. What we are doing now is deciding policy, and as I see it, pooling each story individually is the most sensible choice.
In this case I assumed tradition was de facto policy/there was an existing policy. Since it could mean a policy change I tend to lean towards what has been done and what I in this case personally prefer.
Should a new thread on the subject be created at this point to get any opinions and hash out any details?
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Siegmund_200% said:
I think we are both blind in the left eye.
This is not the first time I have been (perhaps rightly) accused of this sort of thing, and I doubt it will be the last, but I do think it is the most poetic. I approve.
The new thread is forum #62655.
pool #1279 - Tits and Ass
Poorly-defined and probably not pool-worthy.
pool #3545 "Stupidly Clever"
Maybe it's just me, but this seems rather pointless. If you think they're clever, just put 'em in the Clever pool.
Of course, it's open to interpretation.
pool #2987 - Unknown Artist 1
This artist was tagged as Kurofune Shuurai.
JakeBob said:
pool #3545 "Stupidly Clever"Maybe it's just me, but this seems rather pointless. If you think they're clever, just put 'em in the Clever pool.
Of course, it's open to interpretation.
I'm not fully sure the idea is pointless. From looking at the images don't seem like stuff that people would put into the clever pool. Instead of it being clever it's more like idiots trying to be clever and failing at it.
NWF_Renim said:
I'm not fully sure the idea is pointless. From looking at the images don't seem like stuff that people would put into the clever pool. Instead of it being clever it's more like idiots trying to be clever and failing at it.
I agree with this but the title is terrible. Seems to imply the opposite of the description.
Siegmund_200% said:
I agree with this but the title is terrible. Seems to imply the opposite of the description.
the name was meant to be worded in a way that sounded like a contradiction, which is what the pool is, a contradiction. images showing characters or situations that have a degree of intellegence to them, but at the end of the day, are still stupid as all hell.
like with post #836405. Its smart of her to not wear her panties in order to not lose them. That makes sense, but its still incredibly stupid of her not to wear panties.
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Zekana said:
the name was meant to be worded in a way that sounded like a contradiction, which is what the pool is, a contradiction. images showing characters or situations that have a degree of intellegence to them, but at the end of the day, are still stupid as all hell.
I think my problem comes in with slang and colloquialisms.
My first thought was not "clever at first glance but stupid in reality", it was, "super" clever.
Also slightly off point post #468572 is sitting in both clever and stupidly_clever. Maybe something in the description stating that clever and stupidly_clever are mutually exclusive?
pool #3564 - Classified!
"Pictures that or either altered (I.E. Edited) and unique one of a kinda pictures."
This description does not make sense whatsoever, and it is unlikely that this pool will be worthwhile.
feline_lump said:
pool #3564 - Classified!"Pictures that or either altered (I.E. Edited) and unique one of a kinda pictures."
This description does not make sense whatsoever, and it is unlikely that this pool will be worthwhile.
The guy made it so he could place the picture he uploaded it seems. I'm not sure if he also made the picture but it seems to be a not-so-subtle way to pimp his uploads.
S1eth said:
pool #3255 - Touhou - Hoodless Ichirin
We have both hood_down, hat_removed and no_hat to take care of that. All posts in the pool which aren't an alternate_costume, bikini or similar have the appropriate tags.
This seems to have been discussed and then forgotten.