In post #25288 Meiling has what would be considered what I think would be a downcast expression or downcast_eyes. I tagged it downcast for the moment.
Would this be a useful tag or is it covered by another tag already?
Updated by Shinjidude
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In post #25288 Meiling has what would be considered what I think would be a downcast expression or downcast_eyes. I tagged it downcast for the moment.
Would this be a useful tag or is it covered by another tag already?
Updated by Shinjidude
I think downcast_eyes would be a good concept, and is more visually concrete than downcast by itself.
Also related, and mostly unused is upturned_eyes (for that coy expression where the face is lowered but the eyes look forward).
That's a good idea, seeing as how we already have upturned eyes.
Isn't this the same as looking_down?
jjj14 said:
Isn't this the same as looking_down?
I don't really think so. The wiki on looking down says it's about the perspective or action of looking down. I assume that the action is tilting one's head down. Downcast eyes seems more akin to a character looking down with their eyes, while their head remains level(for the most part).
jjj14 said:
Isn't this the same as looking_down?
looking_down generally would assume you are looking at something.
downcast_eyes generally you are depressed/sad/apologetic and looking at nothing (besides the ground).
Basically downcast_eyes means you can't or won't meet the eyes one someone else.
jxh2154 said:
More examples would be good first, but the idea is okay.
Going through looking_down to see what I find.
Reimu is not actually looking at anything. There is also the feeling of sadness to the picture. That would be the distinction.
This is another great example because you can see a reaction from Sakuya (concern). Remilia is looking at nothing.
Flandre is tearing up in this one. Again no fixed point for her eyes.
Basically there will always be a frown (of some degree) and you will get a feeling the picture is sad for some reason. The character will not be looking at a fixed point. Their heads will always be slightly to significantly lowered.
looking_down is looking down at something (there is always a point of focus).
downcast_eyes is "looking down" at nothing (no point of focus) with a very specific set of emotions (sadness).
There could be more examples but I just went through the list fairly quickly and picked ones that stood out from the thumbnails.
post #212435
post #281804
post #330104
post #358991
post #374286
post #434917
post #554767
From sad. There are more but due to the way the artist draws the character it is too hard to say for sure. These would be the best examples.
Is example of one that is tricky due to the angle of the image, so it is hard to say.
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I think there's also a component of the concept in that the head is not or only slightly tilted, whereas the eyes are clearly pointed downward. Usually with looking_down the head is clearly pointed in the direction the person is looking and the eyes more centrally positioned.
Also as Siegmund pointed out, focus is also important. A distinct lack of focus would be downcast_eyes, if focus is evident, looking_down would be more indicated.