I sent one, mentioned this thread too.
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pool #1837: Head? What head?
I think this is a taggable concept.
Agreed. I'm going to call it head_out_of_frame for the time being.
And there are a lot of posts in that pool that are just ass close-ups where there's no expectation that the head even be visible. I'm not including those since I don't think that's what the pool was original meant for.
pool #1389
Not necessary as a pool, as pool:1532 nagato_yuki search covers it.
Hillside_Moose said:
pool #2541 - To Aru Majutsu no Index - Fukiyose Seiri wet breasts - tony manPool contents have only slight variation and no real sequence. Parenting alone should be sufficient.
Every single one of these is ordered in the same way as the the original pixiv posts. Most of them have very clear sequences.
pool #2541 - I think only those with text have a clear sequence. The one's without text have a progression from clothed to nude. Again, this is the order the pixiv artist put them in.
pool #2434 - The two pairs (bikini, nude) are sequenced. I see no reason to not put them in a pool together.
pool #2508 - Has a sequence. 1. Before insertion 2. Insertion 3. Cum 4. Afterwards
pool #2495 - Has a sequence.
pool #2322 - Has a sequence. She's asleep, he kisses her, he goes away, she opens her eyes. See original pixiv post.
pool #2458 - has a sequence.
pool #2460 - has a sequence. 1. "doki doki" before the storm. 2. vibrator on. 3. vibrator off 4. "gomen nasai".
pool #2526 - has a sequence.
pool #2523 - has a sequence
pool #2524 - has a sequence.
Question, what is the policy on parenting posts that are already in the same pool? For example, parenting the posts in pool #2458 to post #788418. They are all already in the same pool so they are already clearly grouped. I don't see any real benefit to also parenting them. I do see a downside: it adds an extra info bar "This post belongs to a parent post" on top of every post so you have to scroll down that much more to see each picture.
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When posting from pixiv, you've already created a chronicle order for the posts (if you go with p0, p1, p2....). So parenting these variations is enough. People can just open the child post that are closest to the parent and so forth.
On the other hand, making pool for them will unnecessary cluster the pool pile, which really should be for some sort of series or collection instead.
Parent-child relation will make only the parent appear on the main post listing, or so I remember. That way lots of picture that are nearly identical (and thus, non-interesting) will not flood the overview of Danbooru content.
rantuyetmai said:
When posting from pixiv, you've already created a chronicle order for the posts (if you go with p0, p1, p2....). So parenting these variations is enough. People can just open the child post that are closest to the parent and so forth.
1. They haven't necessarily been uploaded in order.
2. Even if they have been uploaded in order, the order they appear will be from bottom-to-top, right-to-left, which is less intuitive.
3. Going from one post to the next one in sequence means 2 clicks (go back to the parent post, click the next post) instead of one. Or it means opening them all at once in separate tabs.
Parent-child relationships are not the way to go for sequences. They are a pain in the ass to navigate.
On the other hand, making pool for them will unnecessary cluster the pool pile, which really should be for some sort of series or collection instead.
1. As I've pointed out, they are sequences.
2. How is the pool pile getting clogged? You can search through the set of pools. I agree we don't want crap in there, but I think if you have something that's a sequence, you should make a pool for it. Pools provide easy sequential navigation while parent-child relationships do not.
Parent-child relation will make only the parent appear on the main post listing, or so I remember. That way lots of picture that are nearly identical (and thus, non-interesting) will not flood the overview of Danbooru content.
I don't think that has been the case for a long time. Also, I never liked it when it was that way
-what if you had a parent post you liked and someone a few days later uploads a child post? You won't see it.
-even if a parent post thumbnail doesn't interest you, a child of it might.
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Regardless, it seems the status quo is that pools aren't made for sequences, that's just the way things are done. If you feel something should be changed, make a discussion for it, present your arguments, but by all means DO NOT just go and start doing things on your own without the go-ahead. For all you know, it could have been discussed before and shot down.
I'm pretty sure we do make pools for sequences, and I really don't see a problem with those pools.
Parenting works best for two or three images max, or when they're just variations.
As a bonus the pool names aren't obfuscated with some stupid pun or meme, making them rather exemplary by current standards.
zatchii said:
I'm pretty sure we do make pools for sequences, and I really don't see a problem with those pools.
Parenting works best for two or three images max, or when they're just variations.
I asked about that on the previous page. Seems that pools aren't meant for sequences according to the janitors.
And variations are exactly what these sequences are.
The text in some of the images of pool #2541 make some of those images sequential, and not just variations though. While certainly you can argue that they are variations in these pools, the variations in many of those have an explicit order to them, thus are sequential.
Frankly I think we should use pools for sequences, unless there is like only two to three images in sequence. If the problem is cluttering up the list, then the problem is not properly using pools, it's poorly organizing them. Why couldn't we simply have "hidden" pools that don't appear normally on the list without having to deliberately wanting to see them (such as with having to see posts that you've hidden in the mod queue).
NWF_Renim said:
Why couldn't we simply have "hidden" pools that don't appear normally on the list without having to deliberately wanting to see them (such as with having to see posts that you've hidden in the mod queue).
I'd be worried about "hidden" pools causing confusion. "Hey, didn't I just see this pool the other day?"
I think like Cyberia-Mix said the fact that the pool goes inactive is sufficient.
pool #2558 Touhou - short hair patchouli
created not that long ago.
the concept can be searched for normally with the tags short_hair patchouli_knowledge
or with less noise: patchouli_knowledge alternate_hairstyle or (if privileged or above) patchouli_knowledge short_hair alternate_hairstyle
Quite similar:
pool #2352 Touhou - Let's draw short-haired Hinanawi Tenshi
The pool creator even made it clear that this doesn't just include a specific pixiv "project", but any short-haired Tenshi pictures.
evazion said: Agreed. I'm going to call it head_out_of_frame for the time being.
And there are a lot of posts in that pool that are just ass close-ups where there's no expectation that the head even be visible. I'm not including those since I don't think that's what the pool was original meant for.
I tagged a few more head_out_of_frame that I thought fit, then deleted the pool.
Otherwise, checked to here.
About the small sequences pool issue, it's never been adequately resolved. Some want anything 2+ to be pooled, others set a threshold at 3, or 4, or 6... others base it on how much things change or how much sequence matters.
I'd rather discuss this in a separate thread, if one didn't start already (still catching up)
I doubt the uploader will provide more for this, considering he hasn't uploaded anything else before.
pool #2588 - Well, we're screwed.
pool #2584 - Stop Making Things Worse!
These two pools seem awfully specific, and probably fits into existing pools already.
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Mysterio006 said:
pool #2588 - Well, we're screwed.These two pools seem awfully specific, and probably fits into existing pools already.
I was thinking the same thing when I first saw it thinking it could fit under "Nice knowing you", but the thing is the first image fits what the intent is pretty well, someone calls for help, the help can't/won't come, and well, they're screwed. I'd say give it more time.