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Fullmetal Alchemist homunculus name spoilers

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I have no idea about the names, since I haven't actually seen the series properly and don't want to spoil it for myself, but yes, that sounds sensible and like something consistent with our spoiler policy.

On the other hand in some of those images they are obviously being homunculus. Under the "tag what you see" policy I don't see how it makes sense to untag those images, nor do I see any way for them to be tagged under the non-homunculus names without the images being spoilers in themselves.

I'd say where they aren't visually homunculus, use only the human names for the characters; and where they are visually homunculus tag them with the human names (so all forms are linked), homunculus, the homunculus name, and spoiler(so they can be blacklisted).

EDIT: Actually looking at what we've got, it's already basically being done that way (except without spoiler tags), with some borderline cases on the homunculus side.

Couldn't we skip the "human names in homunculus images" part? We generally don't link alternative forms with the base name unless they're obviously and visibly the same person, like say kaleido_ruby. But if homunculi are distinct enough to consititute a spoiler, I don't see why'd want to break the "tag what you see" principle here and add human names.

The problem is that while it's obvious that they are homunculus when they bust out their powers or reveal the secret tattoo that indicates they are one, for most of them their bodies stay significantly the same (as with Kaleido Ruby). This is especially true of the two most spoilery characters in this case.

The second anime is still running and diverges greatly from the first one + movie (and the divergences include the mentioned spoilers). Additionally the spoilers are sort of important to the plot. I'd say it's worth protecting for those who haven't had a chance to start watching the second anime yet.

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Eleven said:
The manga has been going on for a while now, the series has two anime and a movie. I don't think anyone would be spoiled at this point even if they don't follow the series.

I recall there was a similar point someone was trying to make about Dragonball spoilers once and the consensus was that no matter how old the anime/manga/game, spoilers should not be spoiled.

Eleven said:
The manga has been going on for a while now, the series has two anime and a movie. I don't think anyone would be spoiled at this point even if they don't follow the series.

Just because it's been out for a while doesn't mean everybody's seen it. Spoilers aren't OK to spoil just because they're "old" (unless perhaps they reach the point where they're spoiled by mainstream television on a regular basis ala Darth Vader).

Bastille said:
Pft. The first anime of FMA shouldn't even be called FMA. Only creates confusion due to how radically different it is from the manga.

To be fair, Arakawa suggested herself that the studio should use an alternate continuity past a certain point.

sgcdonmai said:
To be fair, Arakawa suggested herself that the studio should use an alternate continuity past a certain point.

Oh, I know. It had to be done, otherwise she would have had to reveal an immense number of plot details which mangaka are rarely willing to do. Think there's been a few cases where it's happened though.

Fans very frequently get very offended on the behalf of the original mangaka, when the original mangaka either likes or doesn't really give a crap about what the anime studio did.

Also, I really didn't like the original FMA much (while Brotherhood is fantastic) but people whining about it has gotten really old.

Fencedude said:
Fans very frequently get very offended on the behalf of the original mangaka, when the original mangaka either likes or doesn't really give a crap about what the anime studio did.

Also, I really didn't like the original FMA much (while Brotherhood is fantastic) but people whining about it has gotten really old.

Don't get me wrong. It was a decent series on its own, but it shouldn't be called FMA at this point.

And trust me, if you want to see me whine about an adaptation, just bring up Shakugan no Shana. As much as the anime is great, purely because it contains Shana and Shana is <3, I tend to strangle people for saying the series sucks for reasons that only existed in the anime and not the light novels.

Bastille said:
Don't get me wrong. It was a decent series on its own, but it shouldn't be called FMA at this point.

And trust me, if you want to see me whine about an adaptation, just bring up Shakugan no Shana. As much as the anime is great, purely because it contains Shana and Shana is <3, I tend to strangle people for saying the series sucks for reasons that only existed in the anime and not the light novels.

Shana Second was awesome <3

Also, I personally almost never give a shit what happened in the manga/light novel/whateverthefucktheorignalworkwas. People who can't shut the fuck up about how horrible an adaption is need to stop watching the adaption and leave the rest of us alone.

Anyway, the first FMA anime is still FMA, a different one from the manga or the current anime, but so what?

Meh, anime/manga series get re-booted and put into parallel continuities all the time (El Hazard, Blood+, etc), and I don't see why that is necessarily bad, or why it would deny one version the right to use the original name so long as they have substantially the same roots.

Anyway the thread has been thoroughly derailed at this point. Any further thoughts / comments on how to handle the spoiler homunculi and their alter egos tag-wise?

Call them by their "human" names, any spoilers that result in the images are the price of doing business on this site.

The fact that Pride/Wrath/Sloth are completely different between the two series means that using the "Sin" names is way too confusing.

Shinjidude said:
I'd say where they aren't visually homunculus, use only the human names for the characters; and where they are visually homunculus tag them with the human names (so all forms are linked), homunculus, the homunculus name, and spoiler(so they can be blacklisted).

+1 to this.

Fencedude said:
Call them by their "human" names, any spoilers that result in the images are the price of doing business on this site.

The fact that Pride/Wrath/Sloth are completely different between the two series means that using the "Sin" names is way too confusing.

We could do *name*_(brotherhood) for those that share the same name.

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