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BUR #35191 is pending approval.
create implication hashtag-only_commentary -> commentary
There seem to be mixed feelings on whether this tag is useful, but if we're keeping it and symbol-only commentary also implies commentary, I see no reason not to have this one do so as well. Any thoughts?
If the hashtag's text is in a non-english language, why not tag it commentary request? The text can still be translated. Why would any hashtag whether it's english or raw japanese text get tossed into commentary, simply because it's also a twitter search link?
Quoting the wiki for symbol-only commentary, "Bare, unformatted URLs and hashtags do not count against this tag." So if there is an emoji with hashtags, it doesn't need to be translated. I don't see why not having an emoji should make a difference.
It would be my dream to get this implied but unfortunately it seems like there's a weird strong resistance against this implication but nothing against symbol-only commentary.
Previous attempts can all be found in topic #25867.
I still don't know why people suddenly take issue with this. The clauses in symbol-only commentary and in commentary have been there for a good while, but people don't seem interested in seeing that as a problem. Yet here it suddenly is an insurmountable problem.
The following quote from commentary directly contradicts the idea of not having this implication:
If the only untranslated portions of a commentary are meta, such as hashtags or mentions, then tag it with commentary and not partial commentary or commentary request.
If this is wrong too, a discussion should be had to remove it, instead of just ignoring it.
Evil idea is to change symbol-only commentary into meta-only commentary or something as the compromise. Still though, hashtag-only commentary isn't any less useful than symbol-only commentary and at least the former is more descriptive about images than the latter. I will never understand how people can be resistant and think poorly about hashtag-only commentary yet not say the same about symbol-only commentary or maybe it's just that no one's made a move on it yet.
Evil idea is to change symbol-only commentary into meta-only commentary or something as the compromise.
I'm fine with that. My only complaint is that the meaning of meta-only isn't entirely obvious, but I can't think of a better name. Both tags have the same purpose of saying the commentary doesn't contain any "real" translatable text, just hashtags or emojis.
One problem though is that on some sites like Tumblr, sometimes the hashtags are the commentary. They're used to provide the actual comments on the image, and not just as character/copyright tags. In that case hashtag-only commentary can't safely imply commentary, since if the hashtags contain meaningful non-English text about the image it should be tagged commentary request instead. Although I guess calling it meta-only commentary could sidestep this problem, since these hashtags wouldn't be considered meta-only in that case.
