What should we do with harbor/dock/port tags and related stuff

There are six different tags for a place to dock a boat or a ship; Harbor, Pier, Jetty, Dock, Port, and Marina.

Harbor is the most populated cuz it's easiest to search. Even tho strictly speaking it means a geographic region shallow enough to moor a ship, the word is also used colloquially for what is described as a dock or a port. This explains why almost all of "harbor" posts is literally just a port/dock, simply because the other two tags are harder to search.

Then there's pier and jetty which felt like basically the same thing, and marina which is basically just a glorified word for a dock.

So, what should we do with them, cuz I feel that we shouldn't need that many tags for a place to dock a boat or a ship.

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create alias port -> harbor
create alias jetty -> pier
create implication marina -> dock

Based on an opinion I got from Discord, I've decided to merge port (big dock) with harbor since this is basically what the tag is always used for all these time. Same goes to jetty to pier. I would then imply marina to dock since it's a subset of dock with a bunch of piers for docking a boat.

TrueKringe said:

Then there's pier and jetty which felt like basically the same thing, and marina which is basically just a glorified word for a dock.

The problem is some words are used interchangeably, but also have very specific meanings that are different and don't overlap. For example post #2929259 is a type of jetty, and it is 100% not a pier.

From Harbors Piers & Wharves Paperback – January 1, 1990 by Pile Buck International:

Jetty: a marine structure, usually built perpendicular to the shore, extending out into the water to direct and confine a stream or tidal flow to a selected channel and to prevent or reduce scour or shoaling of that channel. Jetties can also be built to protect inlet channels from cross currents or storm waves.

Pier: a berthing structure that runs perpendicular (or at an angle) to the shore and projects out into the water.

I wonder if the freight harbor (with shipping containers, semi trucks and cranes) can be turned into its own tag? Most harbors are basically like what I described.

GreyOmega said:

The problem is some words are used interchangeably, but also have very specific meanings that are different and don't overlap. For example post #2929259 is a type of jetty, and it is 100% not a pier.

For that, I think the tag wave breaker can be used to cover that, since it served the same purposes.

TrueKringe said:

For that, I think the tag wave breaker can be used to cover that, since it served the same purposes.

Doesn't change that jetty doesn't mean pier.

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well if we want to get into specifics a port is where commercial vessels load and unload goods at a port a jetty can be pretty much anything from a sandbar to a bunch of rocks place by someone and a marina is for personal watercraft and piers and wharfs are interchangeable

The pier and jetty tags were cleaned up a bit, of particular note the pier tag's definition was made clearer that it is a structure supported by pillars. While it did originally describe being like a bridge jutting out into the water, it didn't emphasize pillars as a part of the design.