On the matter of scenery

Scenery's wiki:

An image that pays special attention to the scene or landscape of its composition, usually favouring it over any characters present.

However, there are many artworks which fall in-between. For example, in post #8124522 and post #8141983, the artists put in exceptional detail on the environment, however the environment is not the focus of the artwork.
This led to a lot of posts in scenery which feature a character as the focus, not the scenery itself.

I would like to propose a tag for artworks with particularly detailed scenery, but that don't focus on the scenery itself.
Other pictures: post #8203623 (not scenery, but has a focus on the environment), post #5700442

(On a side note, landscape exists, but is undertagged)

BUR #31815 has been rejected.

create alias landscape -> landscape_focus
create alias scenery -> detailed_environment

Radical proposal: Make a new tag for landscape focus, keep current scenery tag to include anything with a particularly detailed environment.

I downvoted because of the proposed scenery alias and expanded definition. Scenery is not broken and does not require "fixing" by dilution, in my opinion. There's a lot of scenery that doesn't meet any conventional definition of "landscape" (indoors pictures, for example), so massive unnecessary retagging effort aside, the landscape/landscape_focus tag is not an adequate replacement.

Why not create detailed_environment as a new tag instead? The scenery -> detailed_environment alias could be replaced with an implication.

The problem with this idea is that landscape is specifically for natural enviornments, whereas scenery can be used for indoors scenery (like in post #8182133) or any other scenery that wouldn't fall into landscape or any other specific type. I don't think converting a specific focus tag like landscape into a much less specifically focused tag is going to help much.

I generally agree with Flopsy, I don't think Scenery is broken however I somewhat think a scenery_focus tag might be useful with Scenery itself being left alone as an intermediary.

The issue with creating scenery_focus is that it would make up 99.9% of the existing scenery tag. We tag the exceptions, not the norm. If we need a tag to help differentiate between scenery-focused posts and posts that simply have a picturesque background, then we need a tag for the latter, not the former. I also don't think it should imply or be tagged with scenery, as people searching for scenery are explicitly avoiding posts with people as the main focus.

The bulk update request #31815 (forum #308927) has been rejected by @Login_to_view.

Flopsy said:

Why not create detailed_environment as a new tag instead? The scenery -> detailed_environment alias could be replaced with an implication.

I like that idea