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Ratings check thread

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Yuremi said:

Are these really deemed as "sensitive"?

post #8071928
post #8065046
post #8044401

I used to be an active uploader for Zerochan where we'd tag every minor thigh curve and cleavage line as ecchi, so I have an idea how the rating system works, but are those posts really it? (Yes, I have already read the howto:rate page)

In order:

  • G (normal clothes, no weird focus)
  • S (-ish, quite a lot of focus on that thigh)
  • S (very low shirt, low enough to show cleavage in a way that's relatively prominent)

deepdigger said:

Is post #8136818 really sensitive? You can see a bit more skin than a typical zettai ryouki post, but the s rating feels a bit harsh imo

Yes.
Let's not water down the rating when you see the breast outline this clearly (almost impossible shirt) + rather intimate situation.

Blank_User said:

It depends on how blatant it is. The cameltoe by itself seems subtle enough for S, but the focus on the crotch probably cancels it out.

Fundamentally, cameltoes start by being rated q. If there are mitigating aspects of the picture that loosens the rating, then they should be applied. I don't see that here, though.

Provence said:

Yes.
Let's not water down the rating when you see the breast outline this clearly (almost impossible shirt) + rather intimate situation.

The breasts aren't emphasized any more than in post #5779780, and we had three users (including the one who changed the rating to G) agree it was not enough on its own (see forum #279334 and the posts below that). I do think other factors such as the thighs and presentation push this to S, especially considering we usually want to favor S over G in borderline posts.

Fundamentally, cameltoes start by being rated q. If there are mitigating aspects of the picture that loosens the rating, then they should be applied. I don't see that here, though.

Prominent cameltoes are Q and subtle cameltoes are S, as stated in howto:rate. In this case, the mitigating factors such as the crotch focus would push it from S to Q, not the other way around.

c_spl said:

if it's noticeable enough on the characters that make up the focus, yes, which applies to the first pic

I don't see cleavage on the 2nd pic though. there's noticeable breast outlines, but I'm unsure if it's enough to qualify for S

The amount of cleavage shown in both posts wouldn't be enough for G by itself, and neither post focuses on it. However, the dresses in the first post show a moderate amount of skin overall, which makes it appropriate for S. I don't believe the breast outlines are prominent enough in the second post for it to be rated S, so that should be fine to rate G.

Hi! post #8144918 was changed from general to sensitive by @Blank_User, the child tag was also removed.

I've re-read the howto:rate wiki article and thought it over, but I still don't understand the reason for the change. I'd really appreciate an explanation on what exactly makes it sensitive, so I can properly rate similar posts correctly in the future. Thanks in advance! ๐Ÿ™‡

lIlIllIIIllIIIIIlIlIllIl said:

Hi! post #8144918 was changed from general to sensitive by @Blank_User, the child tag was also removed.

I've re-read the howto:wiki article and thought it over, but I still don't understand the reason for the change. I'd really appreciate an explanation on what exactly makes it sensitive, so I can properly rate similar posts correctly in the future. Thanks in advance! ๐Ÿ™‡

The feet focus helped by the off shoulder shirt make it just about S. Consequently, child should be removed because that should only be used on G posts.

ANON_TOKYO said:

The feet focus helped by the off shoulder shirt make it just about S. Consequently, child should be removed because that should only be used on G posts.

I see. Should bare shoulders be mentioned on that wiki page then, if it's a thing that affects the rating?

I don't personally see the feet in the image being focused or emphasized in any particular way, they're naturally a part of the sitting pose. There's no highlighting, framing, or other elements that draw attention specifically to the feet. I think the overall context being innocent also matters, it's just the character casually sitting in pajamas, and not wearing socks is common in sleepwear. But I think I can understand if the sensitive rating is necessary for simply the feet being clearly visible in the image. (I guess if the character was instead sitting in the wariza pose, the correct rating would be general?)

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lIlIllIIIllIIIIIlIlIllIl said:

I see. Should bare shoulders be mentioned on that wiki page then, if it's a thing that affects the rating?

I don't personally see the feet in the image being focused or emphasized in any particular way, they're naturally a part of the sitting pose. There's no highlighting, framing, or other elements that draw attention specifically to the feet. I think the overall context being innocent also matters, it's just the character casually sitting in pajamas, and not wearing socks is common in sleepwear. But I think I can understand if the sensitive rating is necessary for simply the feet being clearly visible in the image. (I guess if the character was instead sitting in the wariza pose, the correct rating would be general?)

Bare shoulders on their own don't do particularly much, but this is a pretty "deep" off shoulder. The main thing are the feet though, they're very in your face, along with the rest of the legs, and your eyes are drawn to the crotch area. It's difficult to say for certain obviously but a wariza would probably go a long way to making this G.

ANON_TOKYO said:

Bare shoulders on their own don't do particularly much, but this is a pretty "deep" off shoulder. The main thing are the feet though, they're very in your face, along with the rest of the legs, and your eyes are drawn to the crotch area. It's difficult to say for certain obviously but a wariza would probably go a long way to making this G.

I don't agree with the feet being in your face or eyes being drawn to the crotch area, but I guess there's bound to be subjectivity in the experiences here. I appreciate the responses either way!

I guess I will just try to lean more on the sensitive/questionable/explicit ratings going forward, seems like there's less harm in "over-rating" than "under-rating" an image.

I disagree with the feet being relevant to the rating here. They're "front and center" but I wouldn't describe them as "in your face" and they don't really give off the vibe of being drawn to be titillating. The only people that would even give special note to the feet in this picture are feet fetishists. It's not like some pictures where even people without that particular fetish notice the feet being a little too in focus to be a fully innocent decision.

What makes it Sensitive for me is the amount of skin showing and the pose drawing your eye between her legs. It's definitely on the lower end of Sensitive, but it's enough to probably be safer in S than G.

blindVigil said:

What makes it Sensitive for me is the amount of skin showing and the pose drawing your eye between her legs. It's definitely on the lower end of Sensitive, but it's enough to probably be safer in S than G.

Yes, those were the reasons I changed the rating. I also agree the feet aren't enough on their own to make it S in this case.

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