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Reverse ouji -> kodona alias

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BUR #29786 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias kodona -> ouji_fashion

I was really confused why this obscure term I never hear was used over the much more common term for this fashion style.

I actually had never heard it and couldn't find anything concrete using the term, until I managed to track down that "kodona" traces back to an interview where a popular musician used the term to label their own style. It has minor usage in the Western community for this fashion, but no one in Japan uses it.

The relevant Pixiv tags are "ouji" and "oujisama", and even in the West "ouji" is the primary term used.

Also, should this really imply lolita fashion? They're related, sure, but I don't think people looking for lolita are looking for ouji. They're very different aesthetic-wise.

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I was the one who both added the ouji tag alias and implicated it to lolita. I wasn't the one who originated the tag itself, but I just assumed it was kodona because ouji could be considered ambiguous with it just being the word for prince. There's also boystyle I guess but that's just plain worse.
I implied it to lolita because I intended this tag for images like post #3585548 and post #4909104 which clearly show it as being adjacent to lolita and images like post #5412097 and post #6439143 which would probably get the lolita tag if the shorts were changed to skirts. Also the lolita fashion tag already includes things that aren't 100% traditional lolita but are close enough for the average person who search for the tag like post #6802294 and post #5763536.

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wispydreamer said:

I was the one who both added the ouji tag alias and implicated it to lolita. I wasn't the one who originated the tag itself, but I just assumed it was kodona because ouji could be considered ambiguous with it just being the word for prince. There's also boystyle I guess but that's just plain worse.
I implied it to lolita because I intended this tag for images like post #3585548 and post #4909104 which clearly show it as being adjacent to lolita and images like post #5412097 and post #6439143 which would probably get the lolita tag if the shorts were changed to skirts. Also the lolita fashion tag already includes things that aren't 100% traditional lolita but are close enough for the average person who search for the tag like post #6802294 and post #5763536.

While there's definitely a good amount of posts that I would tag both ouji/kodona and lolita, like the ones you linked, there's also just as many that I wouldn't, like a good amount of Furina posts, or post #7885739, or post #7788607.

Ambiguity is what the fashion suffix is there for.

I've been trying to garden it more as it's undertagged on any character besides Furina but it feels weird doing so when adding the tag to a post right now adds lolita fashion even when it's not relevant.

Also post #6439143 should just be lolita and not kodona, IMO.

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Trouble Windows

BUR #30248 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

mass update ouji_fashion lolita_fashion -furina_(genshin_impact) -rozen_maiden -favgroup:34955 -> -lolita_fashion

I started cleaning this up manually before realizing it would be way easier to just add the posts with lolita elements to a favgroup and then do this...

Also only when I was almost done did I realize that I really don't need to add Rozen Maiden posts individually :BlobNotLikeThis:

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