Honkai Impact/Gakuen requests

The bulk update request #29203 (forum #295704) has been rejected by @Unapproved_in_Three_Days.

Unapproved_in_Three_Days said:

BUR #29376 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias bianka_durandal_ataegina -> durandal_(honkai_impact)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(bright_knight:_excelsis) -> durandal_(bright_knight:_excelsis)_(honkai_impact)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(dea_anchora) -> durandal_(dea_anchora)_(honkai_impact)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(valkyrie_gloria) -> durandal_(valkyrie_gloria)_(honkai_impact)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(palatinus_equinox) -> durandal_(palatinus_equinox)_(honkai_impact)
rename bianka_durandal_ataegina_(nibelungen_traumlied) -> durandal_(nibelungen_traumlied)_(honkai_impact)

Reverse this alias as above. Current name is less searchable and unused in absolutely any media. Likewise fan/official wiki pages do not use that name. This should instead be a footnote in her wiki, like Acheron's real name.

If we care about searchability more than qualifiers, this is the right move to make, and likewise to keep Raven's as-is. Will additionally update BUR reasons for the others to be re-reviewed.

I really don't see the need to remove the Bianka to Durandal alias, but that might just be me having Bianka instead of Durandal as my default for her in discussions and the like.

If anything, it should be simply Bianka Ataegina that is aliased to Durandal (honkai impact), since that appears to be her full name which is readily available on Google search.

caps7 said:

If anything, it should be simply Bianka Ataegina that is aliased to Durandal (honkai impact), since that appears to be her full name which is readily available on Google search.

That's right. The "Durandal" part is still a nickname there, her full name is properly Bianka Ataegina. I'm fine with removing the "remove alias" line out of the BUR but the number of people who are going to try and find her from "Bianka" are far and few, mostly people who actually know the material. Those people will also still know Durandal. For the purposes of Danbooru, it's not necessary.

BUR #29512 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication kiana_kaslana_(frostmoon_bunny) -> kiana_kaslana_(divine_prayer)
create implication kiana_kaslana_(winter_princess) -> kiana_kaslana_(divine_prayer)

Official outfits for Kiana.

BUR #29518 has been rejected.

create implication bianka_durandal_ataegina_(lord_paramount) -> bianka_durandal_ataegina_(valkyrie_gloria)
create implication bianka_durandal_ataegina_(emerald_of_alfheim) -> bianka_durandal_ataegina_(bright_knight:_excelsis)
create implication bianka_durandal_ataegina_(heavenward_dragon) -> bianka_durandal_ataegina_(dea_anchora)
create implication bianka_durandal_ataegina_(stellar_promise) -> bianka_durandal_ataegina_(dea_anchora)

Official outfits for Bianka.

Note about the above BUR: may need to be modified per forum #296169 if it's accepted.

BUR #29531 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

Official outfits for the Theresas

BUR #29532 has been rejected.

create alias theresa_apocalypse_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(rosy_bridesmaid)_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred_(rosy_bridesmaid)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(before_the_dawn)_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred_(before_the_dawn)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(lunar_vow:_crimson_love) -> luna_kindred_(lunar_vow:_crimson_love)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(till_death_do_us_part) -> luna_kindred_(till_death_do_us_part)

Since we already use Kongming's name, may as well use Luna's too.

xcv450 said:

BUR #29532 has been rejected.

create alias theresa_apocalypse_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(rosy_bridesmaid)_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred_(rosy_bridesmaid)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(before_the_dawn)_(luna_kindred) -> luna_kindred_(before_the_dawn)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(lunar_vow:_crimson_love) -> luna_kindred_(lunar_vow:_crimson_love)
create alias theresa_apocalypse_(till_death_do_us_part) -> luna_kindred_(till_death_do_us_part)

Since we already use Kongming's name, may as well use Luna's too.

"Kindred" isn't her last name. I am only aware of this being the first Luna battlesuit name but she's never referred to anything except "Luna" in any game materials or even quick searches for the uninformed. This sounds more like it should be what the tag originally was (and was part of a lengthy discussion as one of the first implications to make for Honkai Impact 3rd) which is "Luna" with a qualifier.

For precedent's sake: we were finally able to separate Ai-chan and Ai Hyperion Lambda. Notwithstanding the initial discussion about the Luna tag, the same scenario would be applicable here (also; we do not have implications between Bronya and Prometheus). I feel we should first separate Luna from Theresa before we tend to any further tagging or implications for her and explain it in a way that the average person can understand.

I think I get the headache of gardening HI3 tags. We do have new and more accepted information now to make better decisions about how to tag these characters but they're already such a mess that needs to get untangled and fixed.

WeakestResUser said:

"Kindred" isn't her last name. I am only aware of this being the first Luna battlesuit name but she's never referred to anything except "Luna" in any game materials or even quick searches for the uninformed. This sounds more like it should be what the tag originally was (and was part of a lengthy discussion as one of the first implications to make for Honkai Impact 3rd) which is "Luna" with a qualifier.

For precedent's sake: we were finally able to separate Ai-chan and Ai Hyperion Lambda. Notwithstanding the initial discussion about the Luna tag, the same scenario would be applicable here (also; we do not have implications between Bronya and Prometheus). I feel we should first separate Luna from Theresa before we tend to any further tagging or implications for her and explain it in a way that the average person can understand.

I think I get the headache of gardening HI3 tags. We do have new and more accepted information now to make better decisions about how to tag these characters but they're already such a mess that needs to get untangled and fixed.

The game's dialogue box does use Luna Kindred IIRC, but in-universe she's only refered to as Luna yeah.
Unlike Ai/Lambda and Bronya/Prometheus tho, Luna is actually a Theresa.

xcv450 said:

The game's dialogue box does use Luna Kindred IIRC, but in-universe she's only refered to as Luna yeah.
Unlike Ai/Lambda and Bronya/Prometheus tho, Luna is actually a Theresa.

Do you have an example of where this is consistent, including to Lunar Vow?

Also, that is my mistake - yes, she is still a Theresa in all respects.

WeakestResUser said:

Do you have an example of where this is consistent, including to Lunar Vow?

Also, that is my mistake - yes, she is still a Theresa in all respects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Suji3Tx0YY
Luna dialogue starts around the 24 to 25 minutes mark. It does indeed say Luna Kindred in her dialogue box.

xcv450 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Suji3Tx0YY
Luna dialogue starts around the 24 to 25 minutes mark. It does indeed say Luna Kindred in her dialogue box.

I'm still not fully convinced that this isn't them using the battlesuit's name, given that other references to Luna do not use "Luna Kindred" and this requires more than a cursory search to find out. I think that "Luna" alone is a better fit.

BUR #29551 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication raiden_mei_(vast_ocean) -> raiden_mei_(crimson_impulse)
create implication raiden_mei_(aqua_chime) -> raiden_mei_(lightning_empress)
create implication raiden_mei_(eventide_phantom) -> raiden_mei_(lightning_empress)

Official outfits for Mei.

BUR #29566 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication elysia_(sweet_memories)_(honkai_impact) -> elysia_(honkai_impact)

Official outfit for Elysia.

BUR #29567 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

Official outfits for Kiana.

The bulk update request #29205 (forum #295707) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #29206 (forum #295709) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #29512 (forum #296729) has been approved by @nonamethanks.