Donmai

Pointless Pools

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WeakestResUser said:

pool #22619

@Fenton Variant sets should be parented. Any reason why you undid the changes and pooled this instead?

Because variant sets should be pooled if there are too many images. Parent/child relations weren't meant for large image sets meant to be viewed in sequence. Children can't be ordered manually, either, only automatically by upload order, so pools are more convenient for large sets.

These are already uploaded in the order they're meant to be viewed in, and honestly do not see any guideline nor threshold as to when they should be pooled instead of parented - they're still related posts. 10 counts as too much and requires pooling instead? They can still be both parented and pooled, so I'm losing the justification here on deparenting them and leaving them solely as a pool. There are definitely variant sets of 10 that are still parented. I won't have an edit war here though; I changed it once and it was reverted since apparently the pool is not pointless.

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WeakestResUser said:

These are already uploaded in the order they're meant to be viewed in, and honestly do not see any guideline nor threshold as to when they should be pooled instead of parented - they're still related posts. 10 counts as too much and requires pooling instead? They can still be both parented and pooled, so I'm losing the justification here on deparenting them and leaving them solely as a pool. There are definitely variant sets of 10 that are still parented. I won't have an edit war here though; I changed it once and it was reverted since apparently the pool is not pointless.

10 is definitely the point where it should be pooled. There's no hard limit, but usually much beyond 5 gets pretty obnoxious to browse. Just because it's not always done consistently doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done though. (Technically 2-post comics deserve pools, but nobody really wants to make those).

Also, you should consider the upload order more of a "happy accident", if there's an actual order required then pools are always appropriate (what if the artist suddenly uploads a different variantg, that sometimes happens).

Oh and don't parent + pool, those two things would be used for the same purpose here, making at least one of them redundant.

HyphenSam said:

There are ship tags like micomet (hololive) which I think are useful. I don't think they should be pools.

That's not a ship tag. It's a tag for any image depicting Hoshimachi Suisei and Sakura Miko as a duo. Non-yuri images also qualify.

I pretty sure we don't actually have any ship tags, and for good reason. Can you imagine how many tags we'd need for every ship out there? Even a basic member could just search for the two characters together and easily find what they're looking for.

Which is why a two-person tag like that is not very useful on the best of days, but that's a conversation for another thread .

And thus, in turn, why a ship pool is not that useful. They fall into disrepair extremely quickly or become a pet pool that develops weird subrules based on whose pet it is.