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Loli/shota check thread.

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denliner27 said:

post #6735814 seem to be loli

I agree

Blank_User said:

post #6228239
Not sure if this one is suggestive enough for loli, but putting it here just in case.

Borderline but I would say no.

Campanella00 said:

post #3500388

This seems loli.

Yes

post #4982316 and its child post
You do not actually see enough of the male to make it shota.

post #6400528
Same with this one although one of the child posts qualify.

post #6549278
I would say yes.

post #6595786
I suppose you could argue this is a petite guy but I doubt it would work. Its shota.

ion288 said:

post #4982316 and its child post
You do not actually see enough of the male to make it shota.

post #6400528
Same with this one although one of the child posts qualify.

I added the shota tag to those before because the amount of his body that could be seen still looked rather immature to me. It's a bit clearer in the first example; you can see down to the navel, which makes the size difference between him and Meiling more apparent, and the chest shape seems to be in line with other examples of shota I've seen.

Blank_User said:

post #6748308
Are we supposed to consider the commentary at all? That's the only reason I can see this being tagged loli.

post #894925
Relatively tame open-mouth kiss and both are fully clothed, but one is a child and the other is a teen. Is that enough to count as loli?

Not sure about the second one but I'd definitely tag the first as loli especially given the child post. Picture itself shows Ronald beckoning her and I'm sure the text if translated would fall under "sexually suggestive" which the wiki states is enough for loli.

Blank_User said:

post #6748308
Are we supposed to consider the commentary at all? That's the only reason I can see this being tagged loli.

For some tags, yes, but generally for loli it's best to ignore it and focus on the image itself. A lot of communities don't use the word the way we do, particularly in regards to our exclusively explicit definition.

zetsubousensei said:

Not sure about the second one but I'd definitely tag the first as loli especially given the child post. Picture itself shows Ronald beckoning her and I'm sure the text if translated would fall under "sexually suggestive" which the wiki states is enough for loli.

In dialogue that is right on the image, he invites her to film one more "promo video". This, plus smartphone mind control, is why I deemed it lewd enough to tag.

zetsubousensei said:

Not sure about the second one but I'd definitely tag the first as loli especially given the child post. Picture itself shows Ronald beckoning her and I'm sure the text if translated would fall under "sexually suggestive" which the wiki states is enough for loli.

The loli wiki states that sexually suggestive artwork is enough, but I don't see anything extending this concept to text. I do know the rating can be increased if the text is suggestive enough. However, if we assume suggestive text is enough for loli...

hdk5 said:

In dialogue that is right on the image, he invites her to film one more "promo video". This, plus smartphone mind control, is why I deemed it lewd enough to tag.

I translated the text to see how suggestive it really was (I won't post it in case the artist releases an English version as mentioned in the commentary), and it's hard to argue that it isn't at least a bit suggestive. The text definitely provides a more disturbing context to everything, including the concerned look on the mother's face.

If a textless version is released, I'd argue that the loli tag should be removed for that version since it just looks like someone showing the girl his phone out of context and most users that don't know about mind control fetishes probably won't see anything suggestive about it.

Campanella00 said:

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5405851?q=kuro_no_kiseki+order%3Ascore#

a year old post but this is literally a pregnant kid. should be Q or E and loli

I'm not sure if pregnancy on its own is sufficient for loli, but I do know that it shouldn't be rated Q or E. Maybe the pregnancy can bump it up to S, but no higher.

Blank_User said:

I translated the text to see how suggestive it really was (I won't post it in case the artist releases an English version as mentioned in the commentary),

A bit off topic, why wouldn't you post the translation? Whether or not the artist posts their own English translation doesn't mean we shouldn't translate things ourselves. Often self-done translations are subpar, and even when they're competent there's still often mistakes or discrepancies between the versions.

including the concerned look on the mother's face.

More on topic, how are you interepreting concern from her face? You can't even see more than her mouth, and she's not even facing towards the "impending doom".

If a textless version is released

The textless version already exists, it just wasn't uploaded.

blindVigil said:

A bit off topic, why wouldn't you post the translation? Whether or not the artist posts their own English translation doesn't mean we shouldn't translate things ourselves. Often self-done translations are subpar, and even when they're competent there's still often mistakes or discrepancies between the versions.

I was overthinking the ettiquete issues with translating other's work when they have a competent official translation available, though I also realize for our purposes, we shouldn't worry about it for the reasons you described. Accuracy comes first, and if the official translation is better, we can always change it. I'll add my translation in a bit. Edit: Done! Not really as bad as I thought except for the last two lines.

More on topic, how are you interepreting concern from her face? You can't even see more than her mouth, and she's not even facing towards the "impending doom".

You're right. I didn't see the other person (probably the father) in the background. It's just as likely she's unaware of what's going on, though I don't think that weakens my argument for not adding loli to the textless version if someone uploads it.

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