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The Vtuber Alternate Costume Tagging Proposal

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BUR #19173 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

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create implication suzuhara_lulu_(1st_costume) -> suzuhara_lulu
create implication suzuhara_lulu_(2nd_costume) -> suzuhara_lulu
create implication suzuhara_lulu_(3rd_costume) -> suzuhara_lulu
create implication suzuhara_lulu_(4th_costume) -> suzuhara_lulu
create implication suzuhara_lulu_(5th_costume) -> suzuhara_lulu
create implication setsuna_(1st_costume)_(nijisanji) -> setsuna_(nijisanji)
create implication setsuna_(2nd_costume)_(nijisanji) -> setsuna_(nijisanji)
create implication setsuna_(3rd_costume)_(nijisanji) -> setsuna_(nijisanji)
create implication gundou_mirei_(1st_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(2nd_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(3rd_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(4th_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(5th_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(6th_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication gundou_mirei_(8th_costume) -> gundou_mirei
create implication asahina_akane_(1st_costume)_(nijisanji) -> asahina_akane_(nijisanji)
create implication asahina_akane_(2nd_costume)_(nijisanji) -> asahina_akane_(nijisanji)
create implication asahina_akane_(3rd_costume)_(nijisanji) -> asahina_akane_(nijisanji)

Since we're doing NijiBURs now, I'll start with the alumni. Adding Akane's since we're doing Livers at random now and there's a BUR for her genmate Hisui.

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BUR #19207 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication nui_sociere_(1st_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(2nd_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(3rd_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(4th_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(5th_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(6th_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication nui_sociere_(7th_costume) -> nui_sociere
create implication luca_kaneshiro_(3rd_costume) -> luca_kaneshiro
create implication kitakoji_hisui_(1st_costume) -> kitakoji_hisui
create implication kitakoji_hisui_(2nd_costume) -> kitakoji_hisui

Adding more NijiBURS with Nui's and Hisui's outfits and Luca's 3rd outfit.

GamingRodent, I'm going to say this in the bluntest way possible - could you please slow down with the implication BURs? We won't be able to get any discussion done on the the issue of finally renaming the qualifiers for, at bare minimum, the Hololive VTubers to descriptive qualifiers, if you keep flooding the thread with implication BURs. The tags aren't going anywhere, and if someone forgets to add the base chartag because they added the costume tag only, eventual implication BURs will rectify that.

Of course, I have no authority in stopping you from making the BURs, but even you should recognize how, two weeks in, we still aren't fulfilling the head admin's request for us to finally get on with it.

BUR #19382 has been approved by @evazion.

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create alias hoshimachi_suisei_(5th_costume) -> hoshimachi_suisei_(stellar_into_the_galaxy)
create alias hoshimachi_suisei_(7th_costume) -> hoshimachi_suisei_(shout_in_crisis)
create alias natsuiro_matsuri_(7th_costume) -> natsuiro_matsuri_(re:start)
create alias minato_aqua_(4th_costume) -> minato_aqua_(aqua_iro_super_dream)
create alias minato_aqua_(6th_costume) -> minato_aqua_(aqua_iro_in_wonder_land)
create alias oozora_subaru_(6th_costume) -> oozora_subaru_(starlight)
create alias nekomata_okayu_(5th_costume) -> nekomata_okayu_(poisonya_syndrome)
create alias inugami_korone_(5th_costume) -> inugami_korone_(saikyo_tensai_wonderful_world_of_korone)
create alias usada_pekora_(6th_costume) -> usada_pekora_(pekoland_princess)
create alias amane_kanata_(5th_costume) -> amane_kanata_(another_world)
create alias tsunomaki_watame_(4th_costume) -> tsunomaki_watame_(watame_night_fever!!)
create alias mori_calliope_(5th_costume) -> mori_calliope_(new_underworld_order)
create alias mori_calliope_(8th_costume) -> mori_calliope_(jigoku_6)

Since it is taking too long for the swimsuit BUR to be approved, I'm going to submit the next one. And it shockingly is not the New Year's costumes. I'm instead opting to first tackle the 3D-onlies... sans Mel's default 3D costume (as that'd be influenced by whatever we do for the defaults). Because, with the exception of Korone's costume (and technically Calli's 8th costume), every single one of these was (to my knowledge) introduced with 3D concerts. Minato Aqua's tags set a precedent for using the concert names for these costumes, so that's what I went with here when possible.

The only exceptions are Korone, Pekora and Calli's 8th costume, because the first two debuted as part of birthday lives that don't seem to have proper names (as was the case with Matsuri, Subaru, Kanata, etc.), but the former's was based on a song costume, and the latter seemed to have the name 'Pekoland Princess' attached to it, so that works instead, while Calli debuted hers as part of an EP, including having the design on the EP cover be turned into a model. So all the names here should be fine per the precedent set.

Additional utility aliases could be added if needed, like for those that debuted with birthday lives.

Part of the reason why going with the full titleless event name for the 2019 swimsuits is preferred is to a) keep consistency with the 2022/23 swimsuit gentags we have; and b) to be able to distinguish them from any individual swimsuits the girls might receive that's unrelated to the Hololive Summer events. It's why the two non-model swimsuit tags I resurrected for Noel and Matsuri drop the hololive in the name to just be (summer_2020), to indicate they had not been turned into proper costumes for the two at the swimsuit events, and could potentially be replaced were they to ever receive proper individual swimsuits/summerwear (also Matsuri's artist has seemingly made a design for her for each year since 2019, post #6585096, and making it all just (summer_*) could inspire some knucklehead to make a 2-post tag for the 2021, 2022 and 2023, when those designs don't seem to have caught on and would potentially cause confusion with the standardized swimsuit designs in 2022/23 - so some distinction in naming feels worthwhile).

Meanwhile, I was actually planning on suggesting a (summerwear) qualifier for use on the individual swimsuits that Marine and Koyori got - going with something like (summer_2023) for Koyori would inevitably cause confusion with the fact that she has worn the Hololive Summer 2023 swimsuit, potentially leading to mistags (assuming we don't go with just (summer) qualifier for these, but that'd still require the distinction between summer event and individual summerwear).

On the Azur Lane skin names though, I am not against flipping the alias and having the event name be the primary qualifier.

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BUR #19385 has been approved by @evazion.

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create alias tokino_sora_(5th_costume) -> tokino_sora_(new_year)
create alias roboco-san_(6th_costume) -> roboco-san_(new_year)
create alias sakura_miko_(5th_costume) -> sakura_miko_(new_year)
create alias hoshimachi_suisei_(2nd_costume) -> hoshimachi_suisei_(new_year)
create alias yozora_mel_(4th_costume) -> yozora_mel_(new_year)
create alias aki_rosenthal_(4th_costume) -> aki_rosenthal_(new_year)
create alias akai_haato_(4th_costume) -> akai_haato_(new_year)
create alias natsuiro_matsuri_(4th_costume) -> natsuiro_matsuri_(new_year)
create alias shirakami_fubuki_(4th_costume) -> shirakami_fubuki_(new_year)
create alias minato_aqua_(3rd_costume) -> minato_aqua_(new_year)
create alias murasaki_shion_(4th_costume) -> murasaki_shion_(new_year)
create alias nakiri_ayame_(4th_costume) -> nakiri_ayame_(new_year)
create alias yuzuki_choco_(4th_costume) -> yuzuki_choco_(new_year)
create alias oozora_subaru_(4th_costume) -> oozora_subaru_(new_year)
create alias ookami_mio_(4th_costume) -> ookami_mio_(new_year)
create alias nekomata_okayu_(2nd_costume) -> nekomata_okayu_(new_year)
create alias inugami_korone_(3rd_costume) -> inugami_korone_(new_year)
create alias usada_pekora_(2nd_costume) -> usada_pekora_(new_year)
create alias uruha_rushia_(2nd_costume) -> uruha_rushia_(new_year)
create alias shiranui_flare_(2nd_costume) -> shiranui_flare_(new_year)
create alias shirogane_noel_(2nd_costume) -> shirogane_noel_(new_year)
create alias houshou_marine_(2nd_costume) -> houshou_marine_(new_year)
create alias amane_kanata_(2nd_costume) -> amane_kanata_(new_year)
create alias kiryu_coco_(2nd_costume) -> kiryu_coco_(new_year)
create alias tsunomaki_watame_(2nd_costume) -> tsunomaki_watame_(new_year)
create alias tokoyami_towa_(2nd_costume) -> tokoyami_towa_(new_year)
create alias himemori_luna_(2nd_costume) -> himemori_luna_(new_year)
create alias yukihana_lamy_(2nd_costume) -> yukihana_lamy_(new_year)
create alias momosuzu_nene_(3rd_costume) -> momosuzu_nene_(new_year)
create alias shishiro_botan_(2nd_costume) -> shishiro_botan_(new_year)
create alias omaru_polka_(2nd_costume) -> omaru_polka_(new_year)
create alias la+_darknesss_(2nd_costume) -> la+_darknesss_(new_year)
create alias takane_lui_(2nd_costume) -> takane_lui_(new_year)
create alias hakui_koyori_(2nd_costume) -> hakui_koyori_(new_year)
create alias sakamata_chloe_(2nd_costume) -> sakamata_chloe_(new_year)
create alias kazama_iroha_(2nd_costume) -> kazama_iroha_(new_year)
create alias ayunda_risu_(5th_costume) -> ayunda_risu_(new_year)
create alias moona_hoshinova_(5th_costume) -> moona_hoshinova_(new_year)
create alias airani_iofifteen_(5th_costume) -> airani_iofifteen_(new_year)
create alias kureiji_ollie_(4th_costume) -> kureiji_ollie_(new_year)
create alias anya_melfissa_(4th_costume) -> anya_melfissa_(new_year)
create alias pavolia_reine_(4th_costume) -> pavolia_reine_(new_year)
create alias vestia_zeta_(2nd_costume) -> vestia_zeta_(new_year)
create alias kaela_kovalskia_(2nd_costume) -> kaela_kovalskia_(new_year)
create alias kobo_kanaeru_(2nd_costume) -> kobo_kanaeru_(new_year)
create alias ninomae_ina'nis_(4th_costume) -> ninomae_ina'nis_(new_year)
create alias takanashi_kiara_(4th_costume) -> takanashi_kiara_(new_year)
create alias watson_amelia_(4th_costume) -> watson_amelia_(new_year)
create alias mori_calliope_(4th_costume) -> mori_calliope_(new_year)
create alias gawr_gura_(4th_costume) -> gawr_gura_(new_year)
create alias irys_(2nd_costume)_(hololive) -> irys_(new_year)_(hololive)
create alias tsukumo_sana_(2nd_costume) -> tsukumo_sana_(new_year)
create alias ceres_fauna_(2nd_costume) -> ceres_fauna_(new_year)
create alias ouro_kronii_(2nd_costume) -> ouro_kronii_(new_year)
create alias nanashi_mumei_(2nd_costume) -> nanashi_mumei_(new_year)
create alias hakos_baelz_(2nd_costume) -> hakos_baelz_(new_year)

With the swimsuit BUR in limbo for now, and with the 3D-onlies having gone through as the first to abandon the nth format instead, I may as well make this BUR - the New Year costume BUR!

Really, there's only one discussion to be had with these - (new_year), (new_years) or (new_year's)? I'm personally leaning towards the first option, mainly because it'd be quicker to add a year to it and wouldn't cause muscle memory issues in such a scenario, as I could entirely imagine (without aliases) someone mistyping new_years_2023 when attempting to tag new_year_2023 or whatever. But if everyone wants to go with the other options, I'll change the BUR to accommodate. I will note though that only one tag uses (new_years) as a (part of a) qualifier, all other New Year's qualifiers use either the 1st or 3rd option.

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