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Remove alias for colored legwear tag and return individual legwear color tags

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BUR #11133 has been approved by @evazion.

create alias white_kneehighs -> white_socks
create alias black_kneehighs -> black_socks
create alias red_kneehighs -> red_socks
create alias blue_kneehighs -> blue_socks
create alias green_kneehighs -> green_socks
create alias yellow_kneehighs -> yellow_socks
create alias orange_kneehighs -> orange_socks
create alias purple_kneehighs -> purple_socks
create alias pink_kneehighs -> pink_socks
create alias brown_kneehighs -> brown_socks
create alias grey_kneehighs -> grey_socks
create alias aqua_kneehighs -> aqua_socks
create implication kneehighs -> socks

Well ok then. I'll fix wikis and request implications afterward.

BUR #11196 has been approved by @evazion.

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create implication black_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication black_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication black_socks -> socks
create implication black_leggings -> leggings
create implication white_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication white_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication white_socks -> socks
create implication white_leggings -> leggings
create implication grey_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication grey_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication grey_socks -> socks
create implication grey_leggings -> leggings
create implication brown_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication brown_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication brown_socks -> socks
create implication brown_leggings -> leggings
create implication red_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication red_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication red_socks -> socks
create implication red_leggings -> leggings
create implication orange_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication orange_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication orange_socks -> socks
create implication yellow_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication yellow_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication yellow_socks -> socks
create implication green_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication green_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication green_socks -> socks
create implication green_leggings -> leggings
create implication aqua_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication aqua_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication aqua_socks -> socks
create implication blue_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication blue_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication blue_socks -> socks
create implication blue_leggings -> leggings
create implication purple_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication purple_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication purple_socks -> socks
create implication purple_leggings -> leggings
create implication pink_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication pink_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication pink_socks -> socks
create implication pink_leggings -> leggings

Missing implications, I often see myself missing the main tag when I use the color_* in my uploads, just to someone add it later. I've made some provisory wikis for the tags that lacked it and removed the tags that had less than 10 posts from the BUR, because the implication can't be done in these cases.

I'm anticipating that someone will claim these implications can't be approved because there were some inevitable mistags in my mass updates BUR that still have to be gardened, but since admins can approve expired BURs, at least it's already done by now and it can stay here as long as it needs.

Edit: All the wikis have already been fixed now by someone else.

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Hyozen said:

BUR #11196 has been approved by @evazion.

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create implication black_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication black_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication black_socks -> socks
create implication black_leggings -> leggings
create implication white_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication white_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication white_socks -> socks
create implication white_leggings -> leggings
create implication grey_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication grey_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication grey_socks -> socks
create implication grey_leggings -> leggings
create implication brown_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication brown_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication brown_socks -> socks
create implication brown_leggings -> leggings
create implication red_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication red_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication red_socks -> socks
create implication red_leggings -> leggings
create implication orange_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication orange_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication orange_socks -> socks
create implication yellow_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication yellow_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication yellow_socks -> socks
create implication green_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication green_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication green_socks -> socks
create implication green_leggings -> leggings
create implication aqua_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication aqua_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication aqua_socks -> socks
create implication blue_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication blue_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication blue_socks -> socks
create implication blue_leggings -> leggings
create implication purple_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication purple_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication purple_socks -> socks
create implication purple_leggings -> leggings
create implication pink_thighhighs -> thighhighs
create implication pink_pantyhose -> pantyhose
create implication pink_socks -> socks
create implication pink_leggings -> leggings

There will probably be some thigh boots caught up in this, since thigh boots used to imply thighhighs and thighhighs was never cleaned out of thigh boots, plus some people used to tag thigh boots as black legwear instead of black footwear.

By the way, are broader legwear tags that aren't really colors supposed to be divided into separate kinds? I slooowly started to garden fishnet legwear into separate tags since they were unaliased from the main legwear tags as well, but looking at the thread I'm getting sort of confused whether or not it's supposed to be done.
Similar thing with other non-color properties like ribbing, frills, etc.

KagayakuShiningGate said:

By the way, are broader legwear tags that aren't really colors supposed to be divided into separate kinds? I slooowly started to garden fishnet legwear into separate tags since they were unaliased from the main legwear tags as well, but looking at the thread I'm getting sort of confused whether or not it's supposed to be done.
Similar thing with other non-color properties like ribbing, frills, etc.

I still say those are properties that people may want to search for themselves specifically regardless of the legwear they're attached, so trying to nuke and deprecate those tags shouldn't be done. I don't care if you want to make subtags for the specific legwear, but for those a parent tag should still exist.

KagayakuShiningGate said:

By the way, are broader legwear tags that aren't really colors supposed to be divided into separate kinds? I slooowly started to garden fishnet legwear into separate tags since they were unaliased from the main legwear tags as well, but looking at the thread I'm getting sort of confused whether or not it's supposed to be done.
Similar thing with other non-color properties like ribbing, frills, etc.

Submit BURs for them. Nothing has been done because nobody has submitted BURs for splitting anything besides the color tags.

NWF_Renim said:

I still say those are properties that people may want to search for themselves specifically regardless of the legwear they're attached, so trying to nuke and deprecate those tags shouldn't be done. I don't care if you want to make subtags for the specific legwear, but for those a parent tag should still exist.

We already have umbrella tags for things like frills and fishnets. Why do we need e.g. frilled legwear as an umbrella tag for frilled thighhighs+frilled socks when we don't have umbrella tags for things like frilled skirt+frilled dress or frilled bra+frilled panties or frilled ribbon+frilled bow?

Things like stirrup legwear and toeless legwear make more sense because those are at least unique to legwear. But for generic things like striped, torn, print, polka dot, etc, I don't see the point.

evazion said:

We already have umbrella tags for things like frills and fishnets. Why do we need e.g. frilled legwear as an umbrella tag for frilled thighhighs+frilled socks when we don't have umbrella tags for things like frilled skirt+frilled dress or frilled bra+frilled panties or frilled ribbon+frilled bow?

As I stated before, especially with fishnets tag, such tags serve as valuable middle tier tags that can assist in searches, especially with minus searches. As I pointed out, fishnet legwear alone accounts for at least 2/3rds of the fishnets tags. Searching for non-legwear fishnets after purging this middle-tier tag would make it that much harder to find non-legwear fishnet garments without having to add several other minus tags.

The fact that we don't do this kind of stuff with other tags isn't a proper justification for not doing it, and if anything should raise the question on why haven't we been using them instead with more massive tags. The complaint that some tags are so massive that they effectively are useless and that these specific subtags more or less become useless in helping to sort the larger tag should suggest that we should have been considering having these mid-tier tags to help better sort the parent tag to begin with.

How should tagging work if you can't tell what type of legwear it is now? Like a skirt or object covering the thigh area so you cant tell thighhighs or pantyhose. I used to be able to just tag the legwear color for indicating its presence, but now I have to choose a type even if I can't actually tell. Should I just assume pantyhose in those cases?

pieguy said:

How should tagging work if you can't tell what type of legwear it is now? Like a skirt or object covering the thigh area so you cant tell thighhighs or pantyhose. I used to be able to just tag the legwear color for indicating its presence, but now I have to choose a type even if I can't actually tell. Should I just assume pantyhose in those cases?

Pantyhose should be tagged unless you can reasonable tell otherwise what it is, like a tabi is usually only socks.

BUR #11256 has been rejected.

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I guess these should be done too so people don't think they should be making them. Also including implications from single kneehighs/over-kneehigh to sock/thighhigh respectively, but not sure if we'd rather keep them separate or alias them.

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