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BUR #10152 has been rejected.
create implication wrench -> tools
create implication crowbar -> tools
create implication hand_drill -> tools
create implication hammer -> tools
create implication screwdriver -> tools
create implication pliers -> tools
All of these are tools, will make searching simpler.
Also hello NoNameThanks, you're looking handsome today.
Unbreakable said:
The same could be said about crowbars, to be honest.
I dunno if those are really the same thing. A crowbar is a specific object with a specific purpose, it's absolutely a tool first, before becoming the iconic melee weapon of a certain video game protagonist. Hammer however is an ambigous term that could mean a claw hammer(tool) or a war hammer(weapon).
Erytropus said:
hammer can also be a weapon, not sure if that one should be implied
There was a suggestion in an older forum thread to rename it to hammer_(tool), which probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Less than a third of war_hammer posts are tagged hammer, so it would seem that many taggers regard the latter tag as tool-specific anyway.
I'd still be wary of implying tools, though. Even if you rename the tag and clean out all the images of weapons, you'll still get folks using it for things that clearly are of no use as tools, like post #4507206 and post #5162016. I don't know how to explain the difference between hammers and mallets to ESL users, especially considering that a mallet can be a kind of tool as well.
iridescent_slime said:
There was a suggestion in an older forum thread to rename it to hammer_(tool), which probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Less than a third of war_hammer posts are tagged hammer, so it would seem that many taggers regard the latter tag as tool-specific anyway.
Part of the problem is that the holding hammer tag implies hammer, and people will use it when someone is holding a war hammer as well. Not sure if this should be separated between holding tool and holding weapon.
Talulah said:
Why is tool aliased to the plural? That's the opposite of how we normally name tags.
Because a decade ago, a lot of taggers liked to use tools for assortments of tools instead of tagging them all individually. It didn't turn into an umbrella tag until much later.
See topic #6252, where an implication to tools was rejected in favor of inventing a pointless worktool tag that has since been abolished.
Unbreakable said:
Part of the problem is that the holding hammer tag implies hammer, and people will use it when someone is holding a war hammer as well. Not sure if this should be separated between holding tool and holding weapon.
This is part of the reason why I'm generally opposed to the proliferation of holding_* tags and their associated implications. There are just too many ways for things to go wrong.
NWF_Renim said:
A tag that was abolished by a single user who went through and deleted the tag from all the posts.
Yes, but only following the discussion in topic #14570, where there appeared to be general agreement that it was a bad tag and it had to go. A single user didn't remove the implications. Did tag nuking in its present form even exist back then?
The bulk update request #10152 (forum #211701) has been rejected by @DanbooruBot.
