Are all game CGs official art? In what case should an official art (from a game) be tagged game cg as well, other than gal games and visual novels? What makes them different from other game arts?
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Are all game CGs official art? In what case should an official art (from a game) be tagged game cg as well, other than gal games and visual novels? What makes them different from other game arts?
magcolo said:
Are all game CGs official art?
No, because of fan games.
Veradux said:
No, because of fan games.
Touhou Lost Word's CGs are tagged as official_art, and i think it makes sense because they're official artworks of their own product. It makes sense that a touhou_lost_word official_art search brings the official artworks of Touhou Lost Word.
I'm fairly sure i raised the issue beforehand, but the discussion didn't gain much traction.
Previous discussions for reference: topic #19204 topic #18319
Username_Hidden said:
Touhou Lost Word's CGs are tagged as official_art, and i think it makes sense because they're official artworks of their own product. It makes sense that a touhou_lost_word official_art search brings the official artworks of Touhou Lost Word.
I'm fairly sure i raised the issue beforehand, but the discussion didn't gain much traction.
You disagreed with me when I suggested commercially released games like Touhou Lost Word are okay to be tagged official art, though...
Why should fan work be considered official? It's not different than considering something like doujin cover to be official art.
blindVigil said:
And how might that work for any copyright (read: Touhou), with dozens of fan games?
keep adding them -
or whats more likely, these fangames will have much much much less official art than the original copyright
here are the top copyrights by order of official_art
? idolmaster
? idolmaster_cinderella_girls
? fire_emblem
? high_school_dxd
? megami_magazine
? idolmaster_million_live!
? girls'_frontline
? kantai_collection
? azur_lane
? sword_art_online
? granblue_fantasy
? fire_emblem_heroes
? fate_(series)
? fire_emblem_cipher
? cinderella_girls_gekijou
? neptune_(series)
? idolmaster_cinderella_girls_starlight_stage
? pokemon
? fate/grand_order
? hololive
? original
? senran_kagura
? oshiro_project
? oshiro_project_re
? sword_art_online:_code_register
im not familiar with most of these, but as far as i know, only pokemon has a significant number of fan games (of which there are a grand total of 12 pictures on danbooru of all pokemon fan games combined)
touhou is by far the exception to this, but you can search official_art that_artist to get all of their official touhou art (tokiame official_art touhou, harukawa_moe official_art touhou, azuma_aya official_art touhou, alphes touhou official_art)
What about game CG? What’s the standard to warrant this tag? It used to work when most game content we have are gal games and vosual novels, but now, isn’t any game official art essentially “art from a game”?
It's art extracted from a video game, specifically. If a video game gets promotional artwork on Twitter or in a magazine or anywhere else, it's official art, but it's not a game cg.
feline_lump said:
It's art extracted from a video game, specifically. If a video game gets promotional artwork on Twitter or in a magazine or anywhere else, it's official art, but it's not a game cg.
Yeah, but we have plenty of sprites, backgrounds etc that are not tagged game cg. There’re also many arts posted on social media by the game or the artist as a promotion, but can be found in game (such as a lot of character card arts/sprites), how does this work?
blindVigil said:
Previous discussions for reference: topic #19204 topic #18319
You disagreed with me when I suggested commercially released games like Touhou Lost Word are okay to be tagged official art, though...
Forgive me, my point of view has shifted over time, i guess. (I'm fairly sure at the time i just wanted to find some point where to draw a line, just poor choice of words, i guess)
That said, if we do end up doing that, I'm thinking that at this point there should be a mainline touhou tag for the Absolutely Canon touhou artworks, so that someone can do a mainline_touhou official_art search without getting any fangame's artworks.
mongirlfan said:
Why should fan work be considered official? It's not different than considering something like doujin cover to be official art.
I think we should stop looking at this series-wise, and rather look at it copyright-wise. nevermind, we have copyright tags such as Tenco's Story.
I think BlindVigil's idea is fine. Maybe with some refinement, I wouldn't want it too broad, but if it was too small it would become arbitrary.
magcolo said:
Yeah, but we have plenty of sprites, backgrounds etc that are not tagged game cg. There’re also many arts posted on social media by the game or the artist as a promotion, but can be found in game (such as a lot of character card arts/sprites), how does this work?
topic #20917, topic #15647
tl;dr game cg is specifically for assets that have been extracted from a game.
Username_Hidden said:
topic #20917, topic #15647
tl;dr game cg is specifically for assets that have been extracted from a game.
Which means arts posted on social media by official accounts don’t go in there even when they’re identical to the one in game? Better specify this on the wiki then.