wink->one_eye_open and blush->rosy_cheeks aliases

wink->one_eye_open and blush->rosy_cheeks aliases.

This came into question in another topic and threatened to derail it so I am taking it to a new thread.

I think this is a good idea. We already use wink for any image where the girl has one eye open and one closed, no matter if she's winking, just waking up, rubbing her eye, whatever. The same goes for blush--we use it for any image where a girl a red cheeks (at least I do, hah).

The problem with both blush and wink is that they're at least somewhat subjective, as they are quite specific actions. Wink especially is something a person does, so any ol' picture with one eye closed technically doesn't qualify. So I suggest to alias these terms going from subjective-sounding action tag to observable descriptive tag. In other words, one_eye_open and rosy_cheeks, respectively. The only bad part about this is that these tags are longer, but we could obviously still use the aliased terms when tagging the image.

Discuss. Also, there are probably other terms like this we're using currently that could be more descriptive.

Not quite sure what to think of the wink -> one_eye_open (should that be one_eye_opened?). The logic seems good for doing it.

I disagree with the blush->rosy_cheek alias on the other hand. Images like post #461486 depict the character blushing, and not rosy cheeks. If anything I think the two concepts need to be separated (if possible).

Hmm, come to think of it, blush is not just a verb but also a noun. But I also think it would be extremely difficult (and possibly undesirable) to separate the two concepts.

Well, I... guess they're not *wrong* or anything. That said I'm much more open to the wink alias than the blush one. Blush seems like a much simpler tag to use.

No, no, no. Wink is a very fine tag, I don't wish to look at the ugliness you propose in its stead. As for blush, it's the tag used for people blushing, which is *not* the same as rosy cheeks. At least I never conflate the two. If you want rosy_cheeks, fine, but start your own tag and stay away from ours.

*thinks of Metallica*

... why? I would prefer to leave these tags as wink and blush. There's something to be said for conciseness. The common perceptions of the words "wink" and "blush" include connotations that import meaningfulness to those "expressions", but fundamentally "wink" means "one eye open" and "blush" means "red face".

The fact that both of you are fumbling with these tags is due to the fact that they are unwieldy - there's nothing more to it.

EDIT: I should probably refresh threads before I reply to them. By "both of you" I was referring to スラッシュ and NWF Renim.

I'd prefer wink and blush to be just as they are. There's nothing confusing about them in my opinion. If we were going with the wink alias, then I think one_eye_closed would be better than one_eye_open because it matches with the existing and widely used eyes_closed.

For the record, my main preference is also to leave both tags as they are.

-1 for both aliases, I like them as is, the wiki describes how they are to be used.

Remember that they have been used incorrectly before, and that I wasn't the first one to suggest this change, even on this forum. But I guess it's not my problem since I already know how to use the tags anyway.

The fact that both of you are fumbling with these tags is due to the fact that they are unwieldy - there's nothing more to it.

This seems to support a change more than anything. They are unwieldy, because we are using a made up meaning that has almost nothing to do with the actual term "wink" (leaving rosy cheeks as it is, although I can't think of any image I would tag rosy_cheeks instead of blush).

スラッシュ said:
(leaving rosy cheeks as it is, although I can't think of any image I would tag rosy_cheeks instead of blush)

The cute sidekick characters that have red ovals stuck to their faces.

I'd tag them blush or not at all. ¯\(º_o)/¯

Anyway, since this is clearly not a popular idea, I'm gonna go ahead and lock the thread.