Dress Shirt to Imply Collared Shirt

BUR #6975 has been rejected.

create implication dress_shirt -> collared_shirt

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The first time this implication was suggested it seems the main reason it wasn't approved was because the collared_shirt tag would explode in size which is a bad argument in my opinion, if a post has a collared shirt in it it should be tagged as such.

The most glaring issue I see with this implication (which I realized shortly before I posted it) would be the kind of posts found at dress_shirt lower_body solo but I wanted to submit it anyway to see what people thought.

In order for this to go ahead you'd need either:
- To not be able to tag dress shirt when the collar is not visible for whatever reason (eg hidden by a scarf, or an arm, or hair, or out of the frame, etc.), no matter how definitely the shirt is a dress shirt.
- For the collared shirt tag to not require the collar to be visible. Without significant tag gardening this would be the default.

I don't like the idea of either of these.

skylightcrystal said:

- To not be able to tag dress shirt when the collar is not visible for whatever reason (eg hidden by a scarf, or an arm, or hair, or out of the frame, etc.), no matter how definitely the shirt is a dress shirt.

Addendum post #4071997

This is such a tag that describes an item which requires multiple things.
But if some things are already visible, then it is safe to assume that it is indeed a dress_shirt (in this case.

Guaro's post describes that really well: Strictly speaking, the collar part isn't visible but because the rest looks like a dress_shirt, it gets tagged as such. Even if all visual components aren't in the image.

skylightcrystal said:

In order for this to go ahead you'd need either:
- To not be able to tag dress shirt when the collar is not visible for whatever reason (eg hidden by a scarf, or an arm, or hair, or out of the frame, etc.), no matter how definitely the shirt is a dress shirt.
- For the collared shirt tag to not require the collar to be visible. Without significant tag gardening this would be the default.

I don't like the idea of either of these.

Guaro said:

Addendum post #4071997

Yes, that was one of the examples I provided. Sadly, this is a tag that would benefit a lot from an implication but there are a bunch of posts that stops it for being possible.

This is similar to topic #19266 and sleeves past wrists / long sleeves, or serafuku not implicating sailor collar because it can still be recognized by other minor details. A lot of collared shirt is missing dress shirt too, because these tags have a lot of overlap.

The bulk update request #6975 (forum #195593) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.