Unless I'm mistaken, there should be no cases where a post is tagged headset but there's no microphone visible, because by definition a headset has to have a microphone to be one.
There's several thousand posts under headset microphone and headphones microphone (even counting mistags) so it's either this or the microphone tag is mutually exclusive with headset (good luck enforcing this).
headset science_fiction has many problematic examples though, where it is used to tag things that look like comms equipment that are worn on the head.
Edit: Looking through the above examples... valkyrie_(apex_legends) is often depicted with a ear/chin-mounted comms equipment that consists of two earpieces and then going down to her chin and neck, implying some sort of built-in throat microphone.
Overall it seems like people find it weird to describe military comms equipment as "headphones", though some are okay with a combination of "headphones" + "headset". Headset is often tagged in all these cases even when no microphone (normal or throat) is visible.
I think generally people just assume that there is a built-in microphone somewhere, implied by the context (because a soldier wouldn't be wearing audio-output only headphones).
Also note that throat_microphone and microphone are almost exclusive of each other. People don't seem to consider throat microphones "microphones" for tagging purposes. Seems like microphone is used for visible, conventional mics.
Generally, the thing is that a headset is a comms equipment that is capable of receiving and transmitting audio. But the "mike" part can be built in and isn't necessarily visible, which is why the current wiki for headset uses the word "usually" and multiple English dictionary also tend to define headset as "typically with a microphone attached", implying that a visible microphone isn't necessarily mandatory.
All of the posts without a microphone that I could find are plain mistags. For example post #4555794, post #4414630, post #4250030, post #4146434, none of these are headsets. There's always going to be mistags for every tag.
All of the posts without a microphone that I could find are plain mistags. For example post #4555794, post #4414630, post #4250030, post #4146434, none of these are headsets. There's always going to be mistags for every tag.
The thing is, headset doesn't necessitate the presence of a visible microphone. And we need a visible microphone to tag microphone, while a headset can have the "mike" part implied by context. And for most people, a military soldier wearing said "comms equipment" is enough context to assume that a mike exists somewhere, whether hidden under clothes, or a chinpiece, or integrated into the cup or sidestrap.
As mentioned, most common definitions of the word headset allow for the non-existence of a visible mike. Our current headset wiki also implies such. The current Wikipedia article (that you linked to) also allow for such: note one of the image examples used is a "SteelSeries Siberia Neckband gaming headset" (so says Wikipedia *shrugs*), with the microphone integrated "on the left earcup". Such an example would not be tagged microphone on Danbooru, but if the image has enough detail to distinguish the specific model (or if the integrated mike can be inferred by context by the gamer using the microphone function in the depicted art), then tagging it headset may be appropriate.
Should we go with this proposed change (and remove all headset examples that don't have visible, separate mics attached), people are still going to tag "military comms" examples (and other sci-fi stuff) as headsets, and this will introduce microphone all over the place in posts without visible microphones.
I'm gonna say that whenever people search for microphone people are looking for your stereotypical stage condenser microphone. I don't think most people would appreciate the tag being filled with a bunch of headsets just because strictly speaking they have a tiny microphone attached.
I'm gonna say that whenever people search for microphone people are looking for your stereotypical stage condenser microphone. I don't think most people would appreciate the tag being filled with a bunch of headsets just because strictly speaking they have a tiny microphone attached.
Those microphones are already getting tagged with the tag though. It's mostly our fault for not distinguishing handheld vs whatever the tiny ones are called, but there's 1.8k posts under headset microphone, and another thousand at least among the results of headphones microphone. I guess we can either make a tag for them or add a relevance clause in the wiki that nobody will follow.
Doesn't seem so, the wiki has said it's either for both the handheld and headset versions since, But I'll chalk that up that it was just one to the typical case older wikis just being copypasted dictionary definitions without though about how it would be used for tagging.
Interesting. Is there a tag for these microphones?
If there is, I wouldn't be opposed to an implication.
nonamethanks said:
There is not. What would we call them?
The classic handheld karaoke/mounted-on-tripod-for-stage-speaking/singing ones (that look like ice-cream cones) are called "dynamic microphones" (because of how they work). These generally look like a stick with a 'net'-covered 'egg' at the end. Hence "ice-cream cone".
Not sure if this is necessarily the best name for the tag though. Especially since there will be overlap with the more "squarish/cuboidal" "condenser microphone" (works by a different mechanism), which are also used in similar places. They also often look similar, except being more 'squarish' at the corners instead of egg-shaped all over.
So these two types... should probably use the same tag, but I'm not sure what. classic_microphone, maybe? or stick_microphone?
Edit: Wait... maybe microphone_cone? This one seems intuitive. Has the word cone which describes the shape, and starts off with "microphone", making for more intuitive autocompletes.
Edit: Wait... maybe microphone_cone? This one seems intuitive. Has the word cone which describes the shape, and starts off with "microphone", making for more intuitive autocompletes.
That sounds like a piece of a microphone, rather than the microphone itself
