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create implication choker -> collar
This might be controversial, but I don't think it makes sense for us to keep them mutually exclusive. We have a lot of tags like heart_choker vs heart collar, spiked choker vs spiked collar etc that are just two names for the same thing.
Also see topic #17204
While I do agree that there is some overlap between both tags (especially between spiked_choker and spiked_collar), I wouldn't say that they are different names for the same think.
I wouldn't call these collars
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post #4544678 (Safe)
post #4544678 (Safe)
post #4307229 (Safe)
post #4513470 (Safe)
But I could be a little off base, because I also would't call these collars,
post #4545540 (Safe)
post #4543925 (Safe)
but I guess that's what they are.
Edit: Formatting (Thanks Guaro)
Flummoxen said:
While I do agree that there is some overlap between both tags (especially between spiked_choker and spiked_collar), I wouldn't say that they are different names for the same think.
I wouldn't call these collars
[post]4545156[/post] (Safe)
[post]4544678[/post] (Safe)
[post]4544678[/post] (Safe)
[post]4307229[/post] (Safe)
[post]4513470[/post] (Safe)But I could be a little off base, because I also would't call these collars,
[post]4545540[/post]
[post]4543925[/post]
but I guess that's what they are
You have to write "post #number"
Flummoxen said:
But I could be a little off base, because I also would't call these collars,
post #4545540 (Safe)
post #4543925 (Safe)
but I guess that's what they are.
Those aren't supposed to be tagged collar. This is a pretty big naming problem. They should be tagged detached collar only. The problem, besides people just misusing collar by itself, is that people tag detached collars as frilled collar, white collar ect. all of which imply collar. I have no idea why frilled collar in particular has that implication, because it's supposed to be for detached collars, and not "dog collars".
blindVigil said:
Those aren't supposed to be tagged collar. This is a pretty big naming problem. They should be tagged detached collar only. The problem, besides people just misusing collar by itself, is that people tag detached collars as frilled collar, white collar ect. all of which imply collar. I have no idea why frilled collar in particular has that implication, because it's supposed to be for detached collars, and not "dog collars".
I asked evazion back in forum #177334 if we should be using tags like colour_collar on detached ones but there was no strong answer.
Unbreakable said:
I asked evazion back in forum #177334 if we should be using tags like colour_collar on detached ones but there was no strong answer.
Well we can't so long as all of those tags imply collar, unless we redefine collar to include detached collars
Flummoxen said:
While I do agree that there is some overlap between both tags (especially between spiked_choker and spiked_collar), I wouldn't say that they are different names for the same think.
I wouldn't call these collars
post #4545156 (Safe)
post #4544678 (Safe)
post #4544678 (Safe)
post #4307229 (Safe)
post #4513470 (Safe)But I could be a little off base, because I also would't call these collars,
post #4545540 (Safe)
post #4543925 (Safe)
but I guess that's what they are.Edit: Formatting (Thanks Guaro)
How is post #4307229 not a collar? Even has a dog's name tag.
Lobuttomize said:
How is post #4307229 not a collar? Even has a dog's name tag.
Because according to the collar wiki, that is in fact a choker, because it's tighter around the neck.
I mentioned this in topic #17204. There's basically two ways to divide them. By snugness or by design. By design that's a collar, by snugness it's a choker. Most IRL descriptions use the snugness metric. A lot of people also treat chokers as a type of collar, though.
blindVigil said:
Because according to the collar wiki, that is in fact a choker, because it's tighter around the neck.
I mentioned this in topic #17204. There's basically two ways to divide them. By snugness or by design. By design that's a collar, by snugness it's a choker. Most IRL descriptions use the snugness metric. A lot of people also treat chokers as a type of collar, though.
If they have to be mutually exclusive, I would still probably call that a collar. Has material between the actual collar part and the skin plus there's shading between the frills and the skin so it's probably not tight enough to be flush against the skin
Lobuttomize said:
If they have to be mutually exclusive, I would still probably call that a collar. Has material between the actual collar part and the skin plus there's shading between the frills and the skin so it's probably not tight enough to be flush against the skin
That shading could just be the frills, though, which themselves likely wouldn't be flush with the skin. Material being between the skin and the collar doesn't really change that it's snug around the neck, it's not about discomfort.
blindVigil said:
That shading could just be the frills, though, which themselves likely wouldn't be flush with the skin. Material being between the skin and the collar doesn't really change that it's snug around the neck, it's not about discomfort.
I'd expect a bit of a crease or something in that case
Lobuttomize said:
Where the collar thing meets the frilled material if it's tight to the skin but the frilled part isn't
Who said the frilled material isn't? By nature of how frills work, they tend to fold away from the surface they're against. Plus, it wasn't established that the frilled material is actually separate from the choker, you just assumed it was. If the frills are part of the choker then there's less likely to be a visible crease.
blindVigil said:
Who said the frilled material isn't? By nature of how frills work, they tend to fold away from the surface they're against. Plus, it wasn't established that the frilled material is actually separate from the choker, you just assumed it was. If the frills are part of the choker then there's less likely to be a visible crease.
No, I think they're attached to it, but they also seem to not be bent outwards at all. It's whatever, though
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