Blouse to shirt implication

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create implication blouse -> shirt

Reason: Blouses are a type of shirt, so blouse should implicate shirt.

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Although I'd rather have an alias I'll +1 this.

I'd prefer an alias too

I'm fine with either.

I also would have preferred an alias but I figured there'd be objections from people who use blouse. If there aren't actually any objections, I can request an alias instead.

AngryZapdos said:

If there aren't actually any objections, I can request an alias instead.

I would oppose outright aliasing the tag.

I think an implication is fine. So +1 for implication.

NWF_Renim said:

I would oppose outright aliasing the tag.

I will leave it as an implication request then.

-1 to an alias. We need to keep blouse as a way of searching for tops with a more feminine style, like post #2947882, post #3174599, post #3362196, post #3434647.

I will concede, though, that this tag should be used with a lot more discernment. Some uploaders seem to use it automatically when they tag any woman in a shirt, regardless of what it looks like.

-1 to an alias or implication. I mean, what the heck is the shirt tag for at this point if we water it down so much? What the heck is a shirt then? We might as well rename it topwear if we're going to be so generalized about it.

BrokenEagle98 said:

-1 to an alias or implication. I mean, what the heck is the shirt tag for at this point if we water it down so much? What the heck is a shirt then? We might as well rename it topwear if we're going to be so generalized about it.

All definitions of "blouse" I could find online call it a shirt. The shirt tag is already watered down anyway, since it includes things like dress shirt and t-shirt, which look nothing alike.

+1 to an implication. There was a time when I'd have disagreed, but at this point I've been brought around to it.

Some good examples of blouses that capture the range of things that the tag should be used for in the wiki could be helpful to point people towards what the tag should be used for, to better establish the correct use of the tag, and to aid in tag gardening?

Should the colored blouse tags be aliased to colored shirt tags if this goes through?

skylightcrystal said:

Some good examples of blouses that capture the range of things that the tag should be used for in the wiki could be helpful to point people towards what the tag should be used for, to better establish the correct use of the tag, and to aid in tag gardening?

That would be good, yes. I never use the blouse tag since I don't know what one would look like, all I see are things I would call a shirt.

nonamethanks said:

Should the colored blouse tags be aliased to colored shirt tags if this goes through?

Yes; if this goes through they'll essentially be in the same position as stuff like red_thighhighs before we aliased those to color_legwear.

I'd just kill the blouse tags as there isn't really a distinction between a shirt and a blouse. Meaning it ends in confusion.
Or alias it. Works as well.

I'll stop you right there chiefs, I think there's a bigger problem here. A blouse is not a shirt, neither is it a t-shirt, it's a weird hybrid or middleman between the two, they come in different styles and sizes but they're almost all different enough from any of the two to be considered its own thing, look at post #3871992 and post #3868067 for examples.
That's not the main problem though, the problem is that a blouse is definitely not a shirt like I mentioned and it seems that most taggers/uploaders don't know about this simple distinction, my stance is that the problem isn't distinction between the two things because it's kind of clear, the problem is that the majority of taggers are simple wrongly utilising and denoting this piece of clothing.

A shirt is not a shirt

What?

skylightcrystal said:

What?

Sh I have bad signal, it takes longer to post than you'd think.

iridescent_slime said:

-1 to an alias. We need to keep blouse as a way of searching for tops with a more feminine style, like post #2947882, post #3174599, post #3362196, post #3434647.

I will concede, though, that this tag should be used with a lot more discernment. Some uploaders seem to use it automatically when they tag any woman in a shirt, regardless of what it looks like.

post #2947882 can be tagged with ribbon-trimmed_shirt
post #3174599 can be tagged with frilled_shirt
post #3362196 doesn't really look like a blouse/shirt to begin with
post #3434647 looks more like a dress than a shirt

So, you have tags that describe it better and in various ways (ribbon-trim and frills) and some look more like dresses than shirts.
Feels weird to have a subset tag that is made up of multiple subsets (ribbon-trim, frills) and can be better described with the frilled shirt etc. tags.