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Upload Bias

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Does Danbooru have a predisposition to simply only want pictures of scantily clad waifus and naked lolis, or is there really a genuine appreciation for art here? But I upload three great pictures of male character, and they get denied 12/12. I upload ONE image of a girl showing skin, and she's accepted. I'm not even going to ask mods go and look at my stuff again or whatever. I just legit want to know if I'm in the right place for uploading art, or if it has to be of balloon tits and pedo-food.

Well given that most users (and approvers) are hetero males it's kinda obvious females will be approved more often than males, also the fact that your uploads are unsourced isn't helping your case about them not being approved. There are also over 75K male only images being approved on the site which the male_focus approver:any search will show you.

They're from a discord server the artist runs. He doesn't really publish his art in places, which is why I'm doing this. People need to see his shit, but it feels like there's a huge bias here.

And are you really saying that their gender has to do with quality appreciation? You literally just said that images on Danbooru are to be accepted on the basis of how well they arouse you? So this place is for porn then, is what you're saying? I can't believe how ridiculous what you just said is. Approvers are to look for quality, not what gets their willies happy.

Approvers are told to "approve what they like" so it's natural that they will approve images with girls, clothed and non-clothed alike, more often then images with just males in them, it's how it is. And no, we're not a porn site.

XenotheWise135 said:

So you're admitting to an upload bias, then? I was under the impression approvers were there to assure quality, but I guess I was wrong.

I said what I said, how you choose to interpret it is up to you.

1. Source your uploads
2. There is a forum for appeals
3. No need to be agressive when some stuff is rejected. Especially when it happens to the first uploads. There is always a phase where you get accustomed to the standards (or not but then that's not Danbooru's fault)
4. I've no bias but the art quality + no source was a big no-no for me.

iridescent_slime said:

Was my answer not good enough? :(

Yes :3
But seriously, there is a difference between that and male focus.
There is the undeniable fact that only few approvers are willing to approve male-only posts. And when you have less approvers the lower is the chance of approvals. Meaning when I reject a "normal" post the chance of the post getting approved is still high while when I reject a male focus upload the chances are high it gets deleted.

The painting of Byakuya was awesome and should have been accepted, but whatever. I was trying to get a bud some publicity cuz I thought his art rocked, but I guess you think otherwise. Fuckin' uploading underaged girls in string bikinis then lecturing me on what approvers are most likely to accept... so stupid. Hopefully the next time he'll draw something to your "standards".

XenotheWise135 said:

The painting of Byakuya was awesome and should have been accepted, but whatever. I was trying to get a bud some publicity cuz I thought his art rocked, but I guess you think otherwise. Fuckin' uploading underaged girls in string bikinis then lecturing me on what approvers are most likely to accept... so stupid. Hopefully the next time he'll draw something to your "standards".

Then add a source if you really want to create publicity for the artist and I might approve the post.
Sources are important.

Ok, it seems that you also self-uploaded these images.
Then that's a pretty dead sign for these posts as we don't like when artists themselves upload stuff to Danbooru as this is a re-hosting website.

Unbreakable said:

I don't see how those two are related in any way?

It speaks to the quality of the approvers, where your pedo-art is an instant click and accept where a stylized painting of a guy is denied 12 out of 12 times. Then we have others supporting the idea that yes, male focused art most likely won't get accepted. I mean, where is that listed in your goddamn upload rules, huh? "Remember, we're here to stare an anime titties, not actual art.". Should be rule number one.

And in terms of sources, I got that from his discord where he shared it, but if any of his stuff goes on Twitter then I'll have the upload link. We'll see if it helps those posts or not, but you're really not giving me hope on the matter. I should just tell him to sell out and draw all the shit Danbooru ACTUALLY wants.

Lacrimosa said:

Ok, it seems that you also self-uploaded these images.
Then that's a pretty dead sign for these posts as we don't like when artists themselves upload stuff to Danbooru as this is a re-hosting website.

I am not retroryno. I tried explaining the situation in an email listed for the contact of the site, but of course nobody responded, and I'm stuck defending myself every upload.

Ignoring the possibility of you having changed your account's name to avoid folks noticing that you're self-uploading, and trusting your word at this current time;

If the image is exclusively from the artist's Discord server, then include the original image link as the source and note either in the artist's commentary or in the comments (preferably the latter) that the image is exclusively on their Discord (and if their Discord is public, include it in their artist entry, though if not, include the avenue through which you could get access (like, for instance, if it is something Patrons get access too, include a link to their Patreon (and if they already had art on there too, then include it in the artist entry - in fact, if you wanted to give them further exposure, you would've filled out their entry with all their relevant social media accounts through which interested users can find their art)).

While this would warrant the posts in question being labeled with bad_link, it would still significantly increase the chances for the approval of the art.

In regards to approvers, they do have the liberty to approve what they want, and while this does filter art that one would consider genuinely bad, good art can fall through the cracks - hence the Upload Feedback Thread. It is also somewhat undeniable that there is somewhat of a bias in terms of the content of the image for some approvers, but others don't have such biases, meaning that for the art that you uploaded, you found yourself in the unfortunate situation of being unable to be approved by those biased and those unbiased. Again, calmly and respectfully asking in the Upload Feedback Thread may have proven worthwhile, as it may have given your uploads a second chance, because as mentioned, good art can fall through the cracks.

XenotheWise135 said:

It speaks to the quality of the approvers, where your pedo-art is an instant click and accept where a stylized painting of a guy is denied 12 out of 12 times. Then we have others supporting the idea that yes, male focused art most likely won't get accepted. I mean, where is that listed in your goddamn upload rules, huh? "Remember, we're here to stare an anime titties, not actual art.". Should be rule number one.

And in terms of sources, I got that from his discord where he shared it, but if any of his stuff goes on Twitter then I'll have the upload link. We'll see if it helps those posts or not, but you're really not giving me hope on the matter. I should just tell him to sell out and draw all the shit Danbooru ACTUALLY wants.

Dunno. An artist shouldn't draw because they want their stuff on Danbooru but because they have fun drawing stuff.

And you know...approvers approve what they like. That's the first rule for approvers that approvers see when moderating posts. I guess you can visit certain wiki pages where you can deepen your understanding of how the approving process works: about:mod_queue, about:unapproved_posts, about:deletion_appeals.

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